FishEaters Traditional Catholic Forums

Full Version: Direct communication with God
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
Pages: 1 2
When Jesus was on earth there is documentation that he loved little children.
He would welcome them and talk to them.
The last time Jesus spoke on earth was probably when He assended into heaven, after the 
resurrection.
God created us and the billions of stars and planets in the universe. He is all powerfull.
We, as earthlings, can communicate with satellites millions of miles away.
I think that the churches are constantly getting more empty because of simple credibility.
There are seven and a half billion people in the world. Not one of them communicates with 
God directly. 
If God came to earth with all of the effort it took, then simple communication now would be so easy.
Faith that you will get in your car and it will go has to be based on something. You don’t expect
a park bench to carry you around.
Excuses only go so far, after a while with constant excuses the credibility is gone.
Is there some sort of fear of asking God to do this?
Welcome. Care to introduce yourself? You can do so at the top of the forum page.
Speaking with God directly...? That's called prayer.

Not only that but God answers us. Though the Bible, through other people, through little hints and nudges. And if you read the stories of the saints, their are thousands of examples of God speaking.

We are not to tempt God. He speaks when He wills. He's not a genie.
(02-15-2018, 05:31 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]When Jesus was on earth there is documentation that he loved little children.
...
If God came to earth with all of the effort it took, then simple communication now would be so easy.

He did come to earth about 2017 or so years ago. The Word was made Flesh. Jesus is God and Man.

Not only can we communicate with Him, and thus God, directly in prayer, but because that seems such an infinite gap to cover between us and God, He gave His Body which as Catholics we can receive every day, and thus we can Communicate (receive Jesus Christ Himself—Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity) every day with God.
(02-15-2018, 03:34 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2018, 05:31 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]When Jesus was on earth there is documentation that he loved little children.
...
If God came to earth with all of the effort it took, then simple communication now would be so easy.

He did come to earth about 2017 or so years ago. The Word was made Flesh. Jesus is God and Man.

Not only can we communicate with Him, and thus God, directly in prayer, but because that seems such an infinite gap to cover between us and God, He gave His Body which as Catholics we can receive every day, and thus we can Communicate (receive Jesus Christ Himself—Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity) every day with God.
What is tempting about asking in a nice way to please talk to us directly. Why do you call it tempting to ask for someone to talk directly to you? He made us, why do you think he would take offence? Is there
a deep belief problem that i don’t get?
(02-15-2018, 07:40 PM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2018, 03:34 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2018, 05:31 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]When Jesus was on earth there is documentation that he loved little children.
...
If God came to earth with all of the effort it took, then simple communication now would be so easy.

He did come to earth about 2017 or so years ago. The Word was made Flesh. Jesus is God and Man.

Not only can we communicate with Him, and thus God, directly in prayer, but because that seems such an infinite gap to cover between us and God, He gave His Body which as Catholics we can receive every day, and thus we can Communicate (receive Jesus Christ Himself—Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity) every day with God.
What is tempting about asking in a nice way to please talk to us directly. Why do you call it tempting to ask for someone to talk directly to you? He made us, why do you think he would take offence? Is there
a deep belief problem that i don’t get?

No one wrote that God would take offense.

There is nothing wrong with praying that God grant you some interior locution (an interior speaking).

However, direct verbal communication is not typically how God works.

He delights to work through His Creatures to show His power and His love.

It shows power to be able to use someone or something else to achieve your end.

It shows love to want to make a someone or something an intimate part of your plan to communicate or even bring grace to others.

But God does "speak" to us directly by His Providence.
It would be tempting God if we asked for some audible sign of His presence in order to "prove" His existence. "Blessed are those who believe without seeing."

The bible says "Do not put God to the test".
Faith must come first. 

Afterwards it is fine and even commendable to ask for God to speak to you but in the spirit of faith.
Speaking directly to us would eliminate the earthly interpretations that seem to always 
include a “but”.
The practical brains we have were created by God, when we ask Him anything in prayer 
He listens to us.
Did He say before He left earth that he would not ever have any direct communication with us?
At that time no one on earth had a clue of the vastness of His beautiful universe.
God is for goodness. God please speak to us directly is a beautiful prayer to want to be closer
to the beautiful God.
(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]Speaking directly to us would eliminate the earthly interpretations that seem to always 
include a “but”.

Actually, it wouldn't, because we have to understand things in a human mode. Even when God does "speak" to us, he does so in a human way : either it is by causing some physical sight or sound, or it is by infusing in our intellect and imagination some image. That is how human beings learn and communicate.

But that's no different than God "speaking" through various inspirations, inclinations, and opportunities around us. Either way he is using secondary causes (created things) as a means to communicate something to us.

In a sense then, if God came to us and cause sounds to be produced for us to understand, it would take the same amount of "interpretation" as God presenting us with an opportunity to help a poor man and seeing that as given us by God.

Were God to do this some other way (i.e. "directly"), he would be working outside the very nature that He created, which is to say he would be multiplying miracles just to speak to us.

(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]The practical brains we have were created by God, when we ask Him anything in prayer 
He listens to us.

Which is direct communication, no?

(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]Did He say before He left earth that he would not ever have any direct communication with us?

No, but no one has said such is impossible. We have said it just doesn't usually happen, and to expect God to fit Himself to our desires is to "tempt" God. To ask Him is one thing, to expect it is another.

(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]God is for goodness. God please speak to us directly is a beautiful prayer to want to be closer
to the beautiful God.

And yet one would be even closer by a well-made Holy Communion, for then one has Christ Himself (who is God) not only spiritual present, but also physically and sacramentally present. That is greater than any locution.
(02-16-2018, 08:52 PM)thank you for your response,when you said "does\t usually", could you elaborate on the unusual? When did it happen?That is so important to so many who are looking to know. MagisterMusicae Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]Speaking directly to us would eliminate the earthly interpretations that seem to always 
include a “but”.

Actually, it wouldn't, because we have to understand things in a human mode. Even when God does "speak" to us, he does so in a human way : either it is by causing some physical sight or sound, or it is by infusing in our intellect and imagination some image. That is how human beings learn and communicate.

But that's no different than God "speaking" through various inspirations, inclinations, and opportunities around us. Either way he is using secondary causes (created things) as a means to communicate something to us.

In a sense then, if God came to us and cause sounds to be produced for us to understand, it would take the same amount of "interpretation" as God presenting us with an opportunity to help a poor man and seeing that as given us by God.

Were God to do this some other way (i.e. "directly"), he would be working outside the very nature that He created, which is to say he would be multiplying miracles just to speak to us.

(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]The practical brains we have were created by God, when we ask Him anything in prayer 
He listens to us.

Which is direct communication, no?

(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]Did He say before He left earth that he would not ever have any direct communication with us?

No, but no one has said such is impossible. We have said it just doesn't usually happen, and to expect God to fit Himself to our desires is to "tempt" God. To ask Him is one thing, to expect it is another.

(02-16-2018, 05:25 AM)upandaway Wrote: [ -> ]God is for goodness. God please speak to us directly is a beautiful prayer to want to be closer
to the beautiful God.

And yet one would be even closer by a well-made Holy Communion, for then one has Christ Himself (who is God) not only spiritual present, but also physically and sacramentally present. That is greater than any locution.
Pages: 1 2