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Peace...I once heard, "The best thing a man can do for his children, is to love their mother."  Agree?  I do - it brings them a sense of security, but also a good example of love, support, respect and relationship. 
 God bless, angeltime :heart:
I would say teach them to love God would be #1. However, a strong marriage is a bedrock for the children. Children who see a dysfunctional marriage carry that baggage with them their entire lives, whereas a strong marriage will have a great and positive impact. So I guess we can say that would probably be #2.
(07-15-2018, 03:46 PM)GangGreen Wrote: [ -> ]I would say teach them to love God would be #1. However, a strong marriage is a bedrock for the children. Children who see a dysfunctional marriage carry that baggage with them their entire lives, whereas a strong marriage will have a great and positive impact. So I guess we can say that would probably be #2.

However, from my own very painful experience, if the 'priest and king' of the domestic Church, the father, does not love the 'queen', the mother, there is absolutely no hope of teaching them to love God. So, I think it's one and the same.
All of the above.
Agree with the above - If someone says, "I love God," but hates a Christian brother or sister, that person is a liar; for if we don't love people we can see, how can we love God, whom we cannot see?
(07-15-2018, 04:01 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 03:46 PM)GangGreen Wrote: [ -> ]I would say teach them to love God would be #1. However, a strong marriage is a bedrock for the children. Children who see a dysfunctional marriage carry that baggage with them their entire lives, whereas a strong marriage will have a great and positive impact. So I guess we can say that would probably be #2.

However, from my own very painful experience, if the 'priest and king' of the domestic Church, the father, does not love the 'queen', the mother, there is absolutely no hope of teaching them to love God. So, I think it's one and the same.

Absolutely.  The two go hand-in-hand.
The best thing a woman can do for her future children is pick them a really good daddy.
(07-16-2018, 08:00 AM)Jacafamala Wrote: [ -> ]The best thing a woman can do for her future children is pick them a really good daddy.

To go beyond that, a woman should love and respect her husband. A woman who shows disrespect for her husband, especially in front of their children sows discord in the family.
(07-16-2018, 09:18 AM)GangGreen Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2018, 08:00 AM)Jacafamala Wrote: [ -> ]The best thing a woman can do for her future children is pick them a really good daddy.

To go beyond that, a woman should love and respect her husband. A woman who shows disrespect for her husband, especially in front of their children sows discord in the family.

This is important.  Everywhere one sees the lecturing of men to sacrifice for their wives and treat her as a queen and everyone nods their heads.  That's all well and good. 

But,  people start to get real prickly when the reciprocal is suggested for women to give due respect to their husbands or simply list their expectations for women no differently than how women do towards men. 

To see a husband , nagged, made fun-of, seen as a goof as television and Hollywood shamelessly portray men has been internalized by our culture.  Women have been encouraged to disrespect men.

https://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultur...0cpMen.htm

It's ridiculous to hear men on tv and radio laugh and say, " I defer to my wife, she is the queen, I do anything she says to make her happy."

That is not historically how Christian men acted.  They were kind and loving to their wives, but they were also leaders of the Household.  They didn't just defer everything to their wife or were scared to death they might get her angry.  That's just wrong. 

Women need to stop marrying jerks.  And men need to scoop up humble feminine, respectful women. 

An informative read:

The Role of Authority in the Family

https://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultur...Lassus.htm
(07-16-2018, 10:27 AM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2018, 09:18 AM)GangGreen Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2018, 08:00 AM)Jacafamala Wrote: [ -> ]The best thing a woman can do for her future children is pick them a really good daddy.

To go beyond that, a woman should love and respect her husband. A woman who shows disrespect for her husband, especially in front of their children sows discord in the family.

This is important.  Everywhere one sees the lecturing of men to sacrifice for their wives and treat her as a queen and everyone nods their heads.  That's all well and good. 

But,  people start to get real prickly when the reciprocal is suggested for women to give due respect to their husbands or simply list their expectations for women no differently than how women do towards men. 

To see a husband , nagged, made fun-of, seen as a goof as television and Hollywood shamelessly portray men has been internalized by our culture.  Women have been encouraged to disrespect men.

https://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultur...0cpMen.htm

It's ridiculous to hear men on tv and radio laugh and say, " I defer to my wife, she is the queen, I do anything she says to make her happy."

That is not historically how Christian men acted.  They were kind and loving to their wives, but they were also leaders of the Household.  They didn't just defer everything to their wife or were scared to death they might get her angry.  That's just wrong. 

And then they wonder why they are not respected or their wives lose physical attraction for them, having been emasculated.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doing-house...rried-men/

 Women test men (usually subconsciously ) to see if they will actually let themselves be ordered around.  Men actually fail by acquiescing.
Peace.....those tv shows that belittle the man are junk and not real to life at all when some of the hard facts set in day to day.  There needs to be mutual respect in any relationship and for children to have a well-balanced emotional life and example for their own future decisions.  We all have weaknesses and that is why the "other" is there to fill that gap - but not to belittle or harrass.  Society really is functioning at an immature level and copying the wrong set of ideals.  God bless, angeltime :heart:
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