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Pope wants rosary prayed to protect Church from devil’s ‘turbulence’
Inés San MartínSep 29, 2018 ROME BUREAU CHIEF


ROME - In a move suggesting Pope Francis believes the Church is in a moment of “spiritual turbulence,” the pontiff is asking Catholics around the world to pray the rosary every day during the month of October for protection of the Church from the devil.

The daily praying of the rosary during the “Marian month of October,” a Vatican statement Saturday said, will unite the faithful “in communion and penance, as a people of God, in asking the Holy Mother of God and St. Michael the Archangel to protect the Church from the devil, who always aims to divide us from God and among us.”

Quote:Yeah, OK. We believe him. Don't we?
 
The statement also says that, as the pope noted during his daily homily on Sept. 11, prayer is the weapon against “the Great accuser who ‘travels around the world looking for accusations’.”

Quote:Ahhhh, there it is. He's feigning belief in the devil and the power of the Rosary against the evil one in order to bring up the idea that he's being persecuted by "accusations" that the devil goes "around the world" seeking to make, a la Prayer to St. Michael.
 
Beyond daily praying of the rosary, the pope is also requesting that the faithful add two prayers: An ancient invocation Sub Tuum Praesidium and a prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel “who protects and helps fight against evil,” according to the Book of Revelations.

Quote:They mean "Apocalypse." Ahem. And even Protestants don't put an S at the end of the word "Revelation."
 
The Vatican statement also said that the pope has tasked Jesuit Father Fréderic Fornos, who heads the Pope’s Worldwide Prayer Network, to spread this appeal. The Spanish priest heads the network once known as the Apostleship of Prayer, responsible for the pope’s monthly prayer videos. October’s intention, planned a year in advance, is supposed to be “The Mission of Religious.”

“Only prayer can defeat [the devil],” said the statement. “The Russian mystics and the great saints of all traditions advised, in moments of spiritual turbulence, to protect themselves under the mantle of the Holy Mother of God by pronouncing the invocation Sub Tuum Praesidium.”

The Marian prayer also known in English as “Beneath Thy Protection” is the oldest hymn dedicated to the Virgin and is well known among many Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox countries, and is often a favorite song used along with Salve Regina.

With the request announced on Saturday, the pope is “asking the faithful of the whole world to pray so that the Mother of God puts the Church under her protective mantle to preserve her from the attacks of the evil one, the great accuser, and to make [the Church] all the more conscious of the faults, the mistakes, the abuses made in the present and in the past, and more committed to fighting without any hesitation for evil not to prevail.”

The prayer to St. Michael the Archangel was written by Pope Leon XIII and incorporated into the rubrics of the Low Mass of the Church from 1886 to its suppression in 1964, which became effective a year later, after the Second Vatican Council. It was originally destined as a prayer for the independence of the Holy See and the pope’s temporal sovereignty.

After the signing of the Lateran Treaties in 1929 that led to the creation of the Vatican City State, the prayer remained in the Missal but was instead offered “to permit tranquility and freedom to profess the faith to be restored to the afflicted people of Russia.”

Pope Francis is not the first pope to ask the faithful to recite this prayer since 1964. John Paul II did so in 1994, saying that “although this prayer is no longer recited at the end of Mass, I ask everyone not to forget it and to recite it to obtain help in the battle against the forces of darkness and against the spirit of this world.”
I do pray, but...the turbulence comes from Francis. Why is he telling people to pray against it?
I've never heard the Sub tuum praesidium referred to as 'Beneath Thy protection'. Methinks they have no knowledge of the prayer. I have seen it referred to as 'We fly to Thy protection', tho'.
Yes, by "the Great Accuser" he means people like Bp. Vigano, Fr. Kalchik, any faithful Catholic who wants guilty clergy handed over to authorities, state AGs performing investigations, any other bishops and priests who are calling for investigations based on Vigano's letters, etc.

What makes it really underhanded is trying, like you said, to rope the faithful into basically praying that these crimes stay under the rug. It is quite sinister to advocate prayer to protect guilty and immoral clergy.

Very patronizing to use a traditional prayer, very sneaky. . .I'm sure that prior to this announcement, the Pope would have considered the prayer to St. Michael "rigid."

If the Pope wants to see what a real spectacle of questionable allegations looks like, he should be following the Kavanaugh hearings.

The Pope unfortunately seems to admit belief in a devil who identifies immoral clergy. I suppose that teen unemployment, loneliness of the old, and ocean pollution are also the work of the demonic.

Who gives him these strategies? Is he genius enough to come up with them himself, or is he truly convinced that he and predator clergy are really being persecuted? Unfortunately his record throughout his career shows he can be narcissistic and vindictive. God forgive me for saying so, but many faithful have tried trusting in and listening to this Pope for the last 5 years, but in these last few months he is the one abandoning the faithful completely.
I think it is noble and holy to pray the Rosary, but I will not do it for Francis's disingenuous cause.

The Church is in a spiritual tempest and he accuses everyone but himself for the mess he caused.

The irony I see is that by praying the Rosary, it will serve to further embolden men like Vigano and weaken men like Francis.
More gaslighting...speak out of both sides of our mouth so for every indiscretion supporters can point to evidence of orthodoxy.
I think me and the pope have different definitions of "protecting the Church."
(09-30-2018, 11:52 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]I've never heard the Sub tuum praesidium referred to as 'Beneath Thy protection'. Methinks they have no knowledge of the prayer. I have seen it referred to as 'We fly to Thy protection', tho'.

"Under your protection" is clearly a literal translation of "Sub tuum praesidium".   You're reading way to much into this.
(10-05-2018, 12:46 PM)ConceptJunkie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-30-2018, 11:52 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]I've never heard the Sub tuum praesidium referred to as 'Beneath Thy protection'. Methinks they have no knowledge of the prayer. I have seen it referred to as 'We fly to Thy protection', tho'.

"Under your protection" is clearly a literal translation of "Sub tuum praesidium".   You're reading way to much into this.

I am fully aware of that. :) I meant that the people at Crux had quite possibly never heard of the prayer. Prayers tend to be known by their incipits, true, but the English is not always literal. For instance, how often have you heard the Salve Regina referred to as the 'Hail Queen'? It sounds to me like someone looked up the prayer in Latin and decided that the English title must be its opening words, never having heard of 'We fly to Thy protection'.
Regardless of the private intentions of the Pope, only good can come from such prayer. Even if, God forbid, the Pope had evil intentions for requesting such prayers, making them more widely known and said more often can only work for good for those who love God--the God who is well known for making even evil work for good.  

I can't help but see the Holy Spirit working in the Church as the St. Michael prayer and other means of combating evil spread.

Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with sighs too deep for words. 27 And he who searches the hearts of men knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.  28 We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose.