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From the UK's Catholic Herald:



Liturgy is not 'styles, recipes, trends,' pope tells Divine Worship congregation
Hannah Brockhaus/CNA  15 February, 2019


The Pope said liturgy is not about a 'past that no longer exists' or a 'presumed future'

The liturgy, Pope Francis said Thursday, cannot be reduced to a matter of taste, becoming the subject of ideological polarization, because it is a primary way Catholics encounter the Lord.

Quote:No, it shouldn't. So why was that done since Vatican II?
 
There is a risk with the liturgy of falling into a “past that no longer exists or of escaping into a presumed future,” the pope told members of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments on February 14.

Quote:Yeah, we should be stuck in 1972!
 
“The starting point is instead to recognize the reality of the sacred liturgy, a living treasure that cannot be reduced to styles, recipes and trends, but should be welcomed with docility and promoted with love, as irreplaceable nourishment for the organic growth of the People of God,” he continued.

Quote:You sure about that, Holiness?


 
Francis also emphasized that the liturgy is not a “do-it-yourself” zone and urged the Vatican officials, “as in other areas of ecclesial life,” to avoid “ideological polarizations” and an attitude of “perpetual dialectics” against those with differing ideas about the liturgy.

He also recalled his statement in Evangelii gaudium “that reality is more important than the idea.”

“When we look back to nostalgic past tendencies or wish to impose them again, there is the risk of placing the part before the whole, the ‘I’ before the People of God, the abstract before the concrete, ideology before communion and, fundamentally, the worldly before the spiritual,” Francis asserted.

Quote:I'm so burnt out on the "Tradition as nostalgia" nonsense. What trads want has nothing to do with nostalgia; it's about Truth, Beauty, and honoring God in a fitting manner.
 
Meeting the congregation during their February 12-15 plenary assembly, Pope Francis addressed the importance of the Church’s liturgy, of having good collaboration between the Vatican congregation and bishops’ conferences, and of developing a proper liturgical sense in Catholics.

“The liturgy is in fact the main road through which Christian life passes through every phase of its growth,” Francis said. “You therefore have before you a great and beautiful task: to work so that the People of God rediscovers the beauty of meeting the Lord in the celebration of his mysteries.”

The pope noted that the plenary falls 50 years since St. Paul VI reorganized Congregation for the Discipline of the Sacraments “in order to give shape to the renewal desired by the Second Vatican Council. It was a matter of publishing the liturgical books according to the criteria and decisions of the Council Fathers, with a view to fostering, in the People of God, ‘active, conscious and pious’ participation in the mysteries of Christ.”

He asserted that “the praying tradition of the Church needed renewed expressions, without losing anything of its millennial wealth, even rediscovering the treasures of its origins,” and noted that it was also in 1969 that the General Roman Calendar was changed and the new Roman Missal was promulgated, calling them “the first steps of a journey, to be continued with wise constancy.”

Francis added that “it it is not enough to change the liturgical books to improve the quality of the liturgy.”

He argued that proper liturgical formation of both clergy and laity is fundamental, and quoted from Sacrosanctum Concilium, the Second Vatican Council’s 1963 constitution on the sacred liturgy.

Quote:And the best way to form the clergy is to make sure to debase the priesthood as much as possible. First, make sure that most new priests are gay. Then give them a banal liturgy, liberation theology, bad History, bad philosophy, no Latin, critical theory classes, and lessons in how to sew felt banners. Meanwhile, let havoc rein in parishes all over the world, making sure that women swarm the sanctuary as often as possible. 
  
Though necessary, just providing information about liturgical books is not an adequate liturgical education, he continued, even with a view toward preserving the dutiful fulfillment of the ritual disciplines.

“In order for the liturgy to fulfill its formative and transforming function, it is necessary that pastors and the laity be brought to grasp its meaning and symbolic language, including art, song and music at the service of the celebrated mystery, even silence,” he stated.

He pointed to mystagogy as a suitable way to enter into the mystery of the liturgy, “in the living encounter with the crucified and risen Lord”; he pointed to the Catechism of the Catholic Church as an example of a book that illustrates the liturgy in this manner.

Quote:Would that be the version of the Catechism that says the Church was wrong about the death penalty for 2,000 years?
 
Referencing the title of the congregation’s plenary assembly, “the liturgical formation of the People of God,” he said the task awaiting them is “essentially that of spreading the splendor of the living mystery of the Lord, manifested in the liturgy, in the People of God.”

“To speak of the liturgical formation of the People of God means first of all to become aware of the irreplaceable role that the liturgy plays in the Church and for the Church,” he stated.

“And then concretely help the People of God to better internalize the prayer of the Church, to love it as an experience of meeting with the Lord and with the brothers and, in light of this, to rediscover its contents and observe its rites.”

Quote:Why does the phrase "people of God" annoy me? Anyone else annoyed by it? Know why, if so?
Mind if I blog this with your comments (and a link to FE, of course)?
(02-15-2019, 10:29 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]Mind if I blog this with your comments (and a link to FE, of course)?

'Course not . You never have to ask Smile
(02-15-2019, 10:55 AM)VoxClamantis Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Why does the phrase "people of God" annoy me? Anyone else annoyed by it? Know why, if so?

It makes me cringe too. I can think of a few reasons:

It’s a phrase most often used by aging boomer clerics and the stereotypical “church lady.”

It’s language that reminds me of corny, saccharine Novus Ordo hymns.

It’s language that is often used to minimize the need of the Catholic Church in the role of salvation. Rather than encourage people into the safety of the arms of the Mother Church, everyone belongs to the “People of God” and is loved where they’re at, even though they may not be saved if they stay there. God loves all sinners, but He also desires us to come to Him. “People of God” is not necessarily a false term, but can be used in a way that is deceptively vague.

Some people are more interested in their status as “People of God” than what it means to serve Him. This can apply to modernists and toxic trads alike.

Maybe that’s too harsh. But how I feel about it probably won’t change after I have my coffee for the day.
I am reminded of a part of Laudato Si regarding culture:

Quote:151. There is also a need to protect those common areas, visual landmarks and urban landscapes which increase our sense of belonging, of rootedness, of “feeling at home” within a city which includes us and brings us together.

When I first read that, I thought, "If care ought to be given to landmarks and landscapes, then why were so many high altars tossed out of churches? Did those not bring us together? Are they not, in a sense, the landmark of the parish?" Yet Pope Francis appears to have no qualms over their removal. The same seems to be for this quote. He's right, but misses the mark.
(02-16-2019, 01:34 PM)Catherine Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2019, 10:55 AM)VoxClamantis Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Why does the phrase "people of God" annoy me? Anyone else annoyed by it? Know why, if so?

It makes me cringe too. I can think of a few reasons:

It’s a phrase most often used by aging boomer clerics and the stereotypical “church lady.”

It’s language that reminds me of corny, saccharine Novus Ordo hymns.

It’s language that is often used to minimize the need of the Catholic Church in the role of salvation. Rather than encourage people into the safety of the arms of the Mother Church, everyone belongs to the “People of God” and is loved where they’re at, even though they may not be saved if they stay there. God loves all sinners, but He also desires us to come to Him. “People of God” is not necessarily a false term, but can be used in a way that is deceptively vague.

Some people are more interested in their status as “People of God” than what it means to serve Him. This can apply to modernists and toxic trads alike.

Maybe that’s too harsh. But how I feel about it probably won’t change after I have my coffee for the day.

The modern use of the "People of God" language is also directly related, historically and theologically, to the Protestantising overemphasis on the "priesthood of all believers" which has tended to prevail since V-II.
*snip*