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Welcome to the forum!  Interesting first post.  (I'm being a bit facetious :P). And no, I don't think the tone is overboard, as I think most here would agree with you.

Now, if you had made this post at CatholicAnswers.... probably a much different story.
(08-03-2019, 02:12 PM)Giovanni Petro Wrote: [ -> ] The priest will forgive you, God might forgive you, but you shouldn't be so quick in forgiving yourself

Find some way to reword that, it's theologically messy. The "will", "might" and "you shouldn't" don't line up there.
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(08-03-2019, 02:12 PM)Giovanni Petro Wrote: [ -> ]A woman cannot, by definition, friend-zone a man who doesn't want to be her friend. If she doesn't reciprocate interest in you or is seeing someone else (in which case she should outright reject any advances), don't orbit around her like a vulture. Have some self-respect and keep your distance. 

There are women -- lots of them -- who love to friendzone men and keep them around to do them favors, buy them things, bail them out of problems, fix their plumbing, change lightbulbs,* kill spiders,** keep them company when they're bored, and, most of all, feed their egos by repeatedly telling them how beautiful they are, what a great catch they are, how all the guys they end up breaking up with are bastards who are not good enough for them, etc. Never pedestalize a woman -- even a good woman that you love. Always have the upper hand.***

I think some guys hang around these types of women, thinking that someday, they'll wake up, realize what they've been missing, and fall in love with the friendzoned guys, but like Giovanni (paisan'!) said, "have some self-respect."


* Which isn't to say that men and women can't be friends and help each other out 

** Which I'm against. Spiders should be taken outside, alive :P 

** By "upper hand," I don't mean any nastiness or misogyny; I just mean to stay in control, and the best way to get or maintain control and confidence is to become a virtuous and effective person. Focus on self-mastery, mastery of your vocation and avocations, and service.
(08-03-2019, 02:49 PM)Bonaventure Wrote: [ -> ]Now, if you had made this post at CatholicAnswers....  probably a much different story.

There are some good Traditionalist members on CAF. Many of the other members are just sadly misguided. If one has been searching for what exactly is meant by "the spirit of Vatican II," all they need to do is read that forum for a couple days and they'll have a good understanding of it.
(08-04-2019, 08:57 AM)VoxClamantis Wrote: [ -> ]... kill spiders,** ...

... ** Which I'm against. Spiders should be taken outside, alive :P 


Taken outside alive, then killed? :D
(08-04-2019, 04:05 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-04-2019, 08:57 AM)VoxClamantis Wrote: [ -> ]... kill spiders,** ...

... ** Which I'm against. Spiders should be taken outside, alive :P 

Taken outside alive, then killed?  :D

LOL  A few years ago, I might've said yes, but then I met some orb-weavers and truly watched and read about them.... Seriously, they're fascinating! I don't want one to touch me, but I like seeing them. Outside, that is. I even turn my porch light on just for them so they'll have better luck hunting. I even name them now. They come out every night in the summer -- two ladies on my porch this year now (Isobel and Lenore) -- and build their webs, leaving in the morning and taking their webs with them (they eat them! I'd had no idea!). Then one day soon, they won't come back but will go lay their eggs and die. Just like Charlotte -- awwww!

While I'm here, re. my earlier post: every young female should watch the movie "Mr. Skeffington," with Bette Davis and the very handsome Claude Rains. It's about abuse of the gift of beauty by one of those friend-zoning vain women I wrote about -- and what happens to her to make her finally get real and get some virtue about her. Ha, a review I saw when looking that movie up just now at IMdB: 

Quote:Watching this movie made me grow up. Great movie!
nastypuppy10 November 2004
I think this is one of Bette Davis' best roles ever. I have always been the "beautiful one' in my family also, getting all the attention, neglecting (but still loving my child). This movie is timeless, especially today in our youth worshiping society. It should be required watching for all young teenage girls. The moral is: beauty fades but true love lasts forever. A cliché? Sure, but so what! I cry each time I see this film. It hits me close to home, I always secretly wondered if my daughter would be as beautiful if not more beautiful than me. Mr. Skeffington (played by Claude Rains) is too good to be true, no man would tolerate such rejection from his wife. How did she get pregnant? Also, all the men she constantly entertained in their home! Thats something that didn't make sense to me but the good outweighs the bad in this movie. I know Franny Skeffington was shallow, but what about all those around her? Once her youth & beauty had faded, not only did her so-called admirers & friends disappear but they were so cold & callous about it. This movie woke me up like a slap in the face. I make it a point to try not to look in the mirror more than 3 times a day. :) But I used to sleep with a mirror next to my bed just like Franny did. All women thrive on compliments, etc. But I pity Franny not for losing her beauty, but for losing her innocence. How ironic it was for her to get a children's disease in order to grow up. Having to be told by a therapist that she was old & her only hope was to go back to her husband. The ending was truly inspired! Another movie that has a similar message about beauty & love is "The Enchanted Cottage" (1945) All in all this is a realistic portrayal of a selfish, shallow person and it takes one to know one.............
I even turn my porch light on just for them so they'll have better luck hunting. I even name them now. They come out every night in the summer -- two ladies on my porch this year now (Isobel and Lenore)

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