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Lauren Chen is a popular YouTuber.  She's a Baptist and her fiance is Catholic.

She agreed to go to Catholic marriage prep for his sake and is repelled by the socialist politics pushed by a presenting couple in the class.  She goes on to criticize the Pope for being a Marxist and quotes example from Laudato Si and Fratelli Tutti.  I can't disagree with her on that regard.  

What a terrible loss of opportunity to convert someone, and I doubt she's going to be very receptive of raising their kids Catholic after taking the class. 

It's a good video worth a watch.

I can't say that I am surprised by this.  It is obvious enough that Francis, with his particular brand of politics and economics, is going to cause people with the opposite politics and economics to turn away from the Church (both Catholics and potential converts).  I've seen defenders of Francis claim he isn't political, or ideological.  He's just teaching the Faith.  Whatever, he's not the first man to sit on St. Peter's throne and throw his weight behind various temporal political causes.  Too bad that Lauren Chen will probably walk into Hell, along with the fools that bought into Francis's message.  We should all pray for her (and her soon-to-be husband).

Here's the modern situation in the Church (at least the portion occupied by Francis's disciples):

Layman 1: "I entered a sacramental marriage in my early twenties and left my spouse ten years ago.  I've since remarried in a civil marriage.  Can I receive communion?"

Liberal Priest: "We can make a pastoral provision for you.  Welcome home!"

Layman 2: "I am gay and I entered a civil union as soon as it was legal.  We've built a life together and adopted children.  Can I receive communion?"

Liberal Priest: "Who am I to judge?  We want to build bridges, breakdown walls.  You might find the work of Fr. James Martin of great value to your situation."

Layman 3: "I work for a political party that wants abortion to be paid for by tax dollars, right up to the moment of birth.  But we also support some stuff the Church agrees is good.  Can I receive communion?"

Liberal Priest: "Hopefully, we can accompany you and have conversations about the Church's seamless garment position.  Would you like your communion wafers...er...would you like a gluten-free vegan host?"

Layman 4: "I think a capitalist economy is the best means to create enough wealth for all people to support themselves and their families, with minimal government intervention.  Can I..."

Liberal Priest: "Heretic!  Hateful bigot!  Despoiler of Mother Earth, our Pachamama!  Repent!  Repent!  Repent!"
My husband and I just went through “catholic” marriage prep in September.  Not only was it heterodox, it was also a rip off.  The mentor couple had all sorts of philosophical and marital problems that called the validity of their marriage into question.

It was definitely an anti-marriage prep.
I could not agree more. Since my recent coming into the Church (First Sacraments in 12/2019) I find myself having to make clear distinctions and shed light to family and friends who constantly snipe away at what the current Vatican brain trust is putting out. I have embraced, along with one of my daughters and soon the other daughter and wife, the Traditional Catholic faith. I have only been to Novus Ordo Mass on a few occasions when attending a pre-1962 Roman Rite Mass is impossible, and I go to Mass at my local FSSP parish or whenever I travel I seek out the closest FSSP affiliate. 
My point being, I find myself increasingly in a feeling of separation from our Catholic brothers and sisters who march lock step in line with pseudo Marxist/Globalist drivel that seems to emanate from Rome and our Bishops from the larger cities everyday. It saddens and angers me. Especially when I view the truth of "living" the true faith of being Catholic as simple and straightforward. God and His Will are essentially straightforward and crystal clear. You can, or you cannot. You should, or you should not. A thing is right, or it is not. A stance is good, or it is not. I see the Traditional Catholic life as being the most perfect blueprint bestowed by God for us on this "mortal coil", to steal a line from the great bard.
So with that in mind, I marvel at the mental gymnastics our Novus Ordo brethren will engage in to justify or advance the "Social Justice Warrior" slop being pushed by our leadership. And more often than not, I am left horrified whenever abortion; nay, let us call it what it is, the slaughter of the innocents is pushed aside in order to embrace the inclusion of those who do not belong. Case in point was being lectured recently by another Catholic who stated that I needed to put aside that topic as it can becomes divisive. My reply was that to quote Archbishop Vigano, "But what brotherhood could ever exist between people, if killing an innocent child is considered irrelevant?" Not to Segway into an ancillary topic, but just attempting to highlight how far from the Catholic doctrine and life others will go to in order to "get along" and be accepted. As if anything worth embracing can exist outside His Will. And, the murder of innocents should make people uncomfortable. It should be divisive. If a person views it as anything but murder and a wretched sin against our culture, than I have no brotherhood with them, and there is no point going forward.
Regardless, The current Novus Ordo leadership smacks of hollowness and abandonment of His Will. The posted video and story do not surprise, but it definitely adds another disheartening reality for the faithful.
There's no way her husband is a serious Catholic, what is he doing marrying a protestant and taking her to marriage prep at a liberal parish?
(12-16-2020, 02:46 PM)Some Guy Wrote: [ -> ]There's no way her husband is a serious Catholic, what is he doing marrying a protestant and taking her to marriage prep at a liberal parish?

I don't know, I think a lot of it is what you're exposed to.  If you are raised in a liberal parish, in line with what the current Pope is saying, then that's how you're going to see the Church.  The EF isn't exactly encouraged at your typical NO parish.

When I returned to the Church, at an NO parish, it took a while for me to even realize what was going on.  I was lucky to have a lot of time on my hands to look into it further.
Just two weeks to flatten the curve, folks.

And Francis is definitely pope wherein Laudato Si and Fratelli Tutti are fully in-line with Catholic magisterium.
(12-16-2020, 03:50 PM)jack89 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-16-2020, 02:46 PM)Some Guy Wrote: [ -> ]There's no way her husband is a serious Catholic, what is he doing marrying a protestant and taking her to marriage prep at a liberal parish?

I don't know, I think a lot of it is what you're exposed to.  If you are raised in a liberal parish, in line with what the current Pope is saying, then that's how you're going to see the Church.  The EF isn't exactly encouraged at your typical NO parish.

When I returned to the Church, at an NO parish, it took a while for me to even realize what was going on.  I was lucky to have a lot of time on my hands to look into it further.

I think you're both right.  This fellow probably isn't a serious Catholic but he probably doesn't realize this.  It is likely he's been reared in a liberal parish, possibly within a liberal diocese, and thinks the "Catholicism-lite" he's been taught the entire time is the real deal.  The result: mixed marriages where one spouse is a devout Baptist (Ms. Chen says she firmly believes in the Five Great Heresies, aka the Five Solas) being indulgent toward the Catholic's "preferences."
I've tried to diet from political discussions and such because they really are insufferable but I will postpone the diet to say 1 bit. I've read the Bible cover to cover. Never did I see Christ say, "lobby the Romans for better healthcare, to end poverty, to render economic justice by the sword, etc, etc, etc....." Christ speaks to us as soul's with God-given free will that requires using that will to actually bring about the good He calls us to do. While I do very believe the clergy has a duty and obligation to speak what is truth, expecting to deliver it by the "power and might" of the government shows a complete and utter lack of trust in God Almighty. If it wasn't for human beings, the government would work but alas that is an oxymoron.

If only these "Protestants" remained in the Church and used their fire in the service of the Lord to keep us on track......

Back to diet....
Francis is probably thrilled that someone is staying Protestant.

I don't know much about Lauren Chen, but based on her reaction to this class my guess is that I have more in common with her worldview than I do with most other Catholics.
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