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Well now, this is --- odd, fascinating, and potentially miraculous and wonderful. It's asserted that millions of Muslims are converting -- after having dreams about Christ. Anyone know anything about this? (The video was published on Youtube 5 days ago). The man speaking is Dinesh D'Souza, a non-denominational Christian, writer, speaker, filmmaker, and political commentator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza):


He's an apostate. Of course, he was educated by Jesuits, which probably excuses him. As to his claim, I'd want to see confirmation from another source. That would be wonderful, but it would also be news that would make at least some outlets, if only because of the violence of the gutter religion of the paedophile against those who try to leave.
I've always wondered if Our Lady will appear to Muslims and there be a mass conversion. This is just as good, if not better - if true.
On The Journey Home on EWTN several months ago, Marcus Grodi interviewed a former Muslim woman who became Catholic.  She, also, had had a mystical experience of Christ, either a dream or a vision.  Her testimony was very powerful.

Here is her interview:

Yes, I know about it, Vox. I've read it about many times, and am in the process of writing a book about Christianity's Growth in every Continent in the world. Please pray for that book that it may be a success. Here's a link you may like to read to know more about it.

To the others, There will be 2 Billion Muslims in the world soon. If we don't Evangelize Today, we will be Terrorized Tomorrow. Go out into the Streets and Evangelize!

https://virtueonline.org/six-million-afr...-each-year

"Six Million African Muslims Convert to Christianity Each Year
Synopsis from The American Thinker

by James M. Arlandson ...

This translation of a televised conversation on the Al-Jazeerah Website reveals a rare glimpse into the outlook of Muslim scholars who are concerned about Christianity's growth. The invited guest is Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani; the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, which is an institution specializing in graduating imams and Islamic preachers.

Katani starts off describing the overall problem:

Islam used to represent, as you previously mentioned, Africa's main religion and there were 30 African languages that used to be written in Arabic script. The number of Muslims in Africa has diminished to 316 million, half of whom are Arabs in North Africa. So in the section of Africa that we are talking about, the non Arab section, the number of Muslims does not exceed 150 million people. When we realize that the entire population of Africa is one billion people, we see that the number of Muslims has diminished greatly from what it was in the beginning of the last century. On the other hand, the number of Catholics has increased from one million in 1902 to 329 million 882 thousand (329,882,000). Let us round off that number to 330 million in the year 2000.

As to how that happened, well there are now 1.5 million churches whose congregations account for 46 million people. In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity. These numbers are very large indeed.

From what I have heard from reliable sources, six million may be too low. Reliable accounts say that one hundred thousand Africans convert to Christianity per day, though not all of them come from Islam. Then Katani says Muslims should build schools before mosques, in order to build the worshipper (Muslim) before the building. Why? To stop the the dangerous "Christian missionary octopus"

This happens often! The wealthy Arab builds a mosque for himself or one of his parents of his friend, but my dear sir, building a mosque comes as a second stage. In America, the price of building an Islamic school is 5 million dollars. In Africa, 50 thousand dollars are enough to build a very reasonably sized school. I say this and I take full responsibility for it; building a school comes before building a mosque. Build the worshiper before you build the mosque. Take for example yourself; you go to the mosque five times a day and if you added all that time it would equal an hour or maybe two hours if you include the Friday prayer. However, if I ask you how long you stayed at school, you will reply that you spent years in middle school and years in high school. Likewise the African goes to the mosque, but if we built him a school where he could spend most of his time, and provided specialized educators we could at least stop this dangerous Christian missionary octopus.

Katani states the purpose of his school:

The truth is, the institution that I administer is considered pre-college. As for the subject of attracting and preparing specialized missionaries to bring them from their countries to Libya in order to train them and return them back to their countries, that is done through the Islamic Propagation Organization. This organization has graduated a number of classes, some of whose students had masters and doctorate degrees. These efforts were fruitful in that these graduates were able to attract people from their lands and countries because they spoke the language and understood the customs of the people they were proselytizing. This way, the missionary is not a foreigner to the community he is working with, contrast that to what would happen if I went to the Philippines for example. I can't speak a single Philippino word; much less invite people to the faith.

By now other Muslim leaders have joined in. Abbas Hamid lives in Holland, and he deplores the un-Islamic way of life:

My brother may Allah reward you. We muslims in Holland suffer a lot when we see issues like this and we really suffer when we see a muslim, as the sheikh said, who spends millions in bars and entertainment while other muslims are lost and cannot find a translation of the Koran. Even their children who are able to learn cannot memorize the Koran, they can't find a translated Koran or even any translated book. The first thing we must do is mend our selves; the Islamic countries must fix themselves first and then they can look at Africa. May Allah reward you and this issue is interesting.

Later, an Arabic-speaking Christian discusses how Islam must preach peace and love. No one denies, as none of the Muslim scholars do, that a religion has the right to spread his faith (except in hard line Islamic countries), but these leaders seem panicky. They express frustration at Islam's disorganized efforts to maintain Africa. But this one idea eludes them: Islam itself is the problem because it is a burdensome and harsh religion. This is apparent when one Muslim scholar talks about implementing Shari'ah as if it is self-evident that it benefits society.

The whole conversation is fascinating. We must educate ourselves about Islam, and with the worldwide web, we have unprecedented opportunities."
It seems far fetched.  Islam takes a very strong stance against Trinitarianism and the Incarnation. It's part and parcel of basic Islam 101 across all the various schools and varieties of it.  I would think it would take more than a few dreams to change someone's religion, especially when that religion permeates every aspect of your life, from the familial to the social, and when on paper (even if not in practice in most places) apostasy is punishable by death. Apostasy from Islam has many consequences in a Muslim society that simply don't exist in modern secular western societies, even nominally Christian ones.
Oh, I hope so! I hope they turn to Our Lady...OL Guadalupe stands on the crescent moon. OL Fatima took the same name as Mohammed's daughter. I've heard before (I can't recall where), Muslims have a devotion to Mary.

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(12-05-2021, 04:19 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]He's an apostate. Of course, he was educated by Jesuits, which probably excuses him. As to his claim, I'd want to see confirmation from another source. That would be wonderful, but it would also be news that would make at least some outlets, if only because of the violence of the gutter religion of the paedophile against those who try to leave.

A lot of non-Catholic sources have been making this claim.  I first heard about it maybe 5 or 6 years ago.  Here are a few of them:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/artic...ream-jesus
https://lausanneworldpulse.com/perspecti...95/01-2007
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2021/ma...to-muslims

These are just a few of the top results I got when Googling the subject.  The search results were in the millions (I'm assuming a lot of duplicate articles out there) but this is a phenomenon that many Evangelicals have been reporting for a while now.  The very first link reports a study of 600 Muslim converts to Evangelicalism.  About 1/4 had some kind of dream of Jesus (or, to be a little more accurate, a man in a white robe) that led them to Evangelicalism.  And that makes the whole thing seem far less like a vision of Jesus than a certain other being that loves to disguise himself (2 Corinthians 11:14).
How many of these mystical experiences have involved the Blessed Virgin Mary?

I'm highly skeptical that Muslims are converting en masse in any place without Our Lady being part of that processes in some way.
It would have helped if he had given some solid references/citations.
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