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New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Historian - 11-17-2007

I honestly don't know what to think of this. I do know if something like this happened here (US) there would be howls of outrage.
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New Zealand bars British man's 'fat' wife
By Paul Chapman in Wellington
Last Updated: <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">3:38pm GMT 17/11/2007</span>
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<p class="story2">A British man who moved to New Zealand has been told by officials that his wife is too fat to join him.

<p class="story2"> Richie Trezise, 35, a rugby-playing Welshman, lost weight to gain entry to New Zealand after being rejected for being overweight and a potential burden on the health care system.
<table align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" hspace="0" width="258"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2" width="8"> </td><td width="250"><center>[Image: wfat117.jpg]</center></td></tr><tr><td class="caption"><center>Richie and Rowan Trezise have been battling to shed pounds

</center></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="story2">His wife, Rowan, is now on a strict diet. However, she has been battling for months to shed the pounds so they can be reunited and live Down Under.

Mr Trezise moved to New Zealand in September after shedding two inches from his waist on a crash diet. He said that if his wife was not allowed to come out by Christmas they would abandon the idea of emigrating.

His employer-backed skills visa was initially rejected by immigration officials when they discovered that his body mass index, or BMI, was 42, making him morbidly obese.

BMI measures a person's weight in relation to their height. Anything over 25 is regarded as overweight, and 30 or above is obese.
<p class="story2">But his wife Rowan, who planned to emigrate with him, has failed to overcome the obesity test.
<p class="story2">Mr Trezise is a submarine cable specialist, who has also served in the Army.
<p class="story2">He said yesterday: "My doctor laughed at me.
<p class="story2">"He said he'd never seen anything more ridiculous in his whole life. He said not every overweight person is unhealthy or unfit.
<p class="story2">"The idea was that we were going to change our lifestyle totally and get outdoors and on mountain bikes and all sorts of activities."
<p class="story2"> Robyn Toomath, a spokesman for Fight the Obesity Epidemic and an endocrinologist, said the BMI limit was valid in the vast majority of people.
<p class="story2">She said she was opposed to obese people being stigmatised.
<p class="story2">"However, the immigration department's focus is different," she said. "It cannot afford to import people into the country who are going to be a significant drain on our health resources.
<p class="story2">"You can see the logic in assessing if there is a significant health cost associated with this individual and that would be a reason for them not coming in."
<p class="story2">New Zealand is critically short of skilled workers, and many large firms are intensively recruiting in Britain.
<p class="story2">Mr Trezise was recruited to supervise the Southern Cross Cable, which links New Zealand with Australia and the west coast of the United States.
<p class="story2">He is one of only four highly qualified specialist technicians working on the improvement of the cable.
<p class="story2">The New Zealand Immigration Service said it did not know how many people were denied entry to the country because of high BMI readings.
<p class="story2">However, comments posted on the Emigrate New Zealand website reveal that many people have been turned down after medical tests revealed that they were obese.
<p class="story2">Mr Trezise has private health care in New Zealand and his employer, Telecom, has a gym membership scheme.




New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Robb - 11-19-2007

Is N.Z. one of these weird health nut countries like Holland and Australia (i.e. if California were a country).  I guess fat people will follow quickly in the footsteps of smokers as an acceptable scapegoat for all the worlds problems.

Bob



New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Cassius_Longinus - 11-19-2007

I wouldn't mind if the US were one of those "weird health nut countries".  You are right, Spooky, there would be howls (or maybe more accurately, 'lows') of outrage because the US is the home of (a staggering) 210 million people that are overweight.  Spiritual health is, of course, more important than physical health, but when one's mind and heart are directed toward the right things, prudence and moderation come more easily in everything.


New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - sweetpea - 11-19-2007

Yeah, but we don't have universal health care.  Fat people in the U.S., just like everyone else, have to pay for their own medical care or have private insurance.

Edit:  And no offense, I'm one of the 'fat' people myself!



New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Historian - 11-19-2007

Cassius_Longinus Wrote:I wouldn't mind if the US were one of those "weird health nut countries". You are right, Spooky, there would be howls (or maybe more accurately, 'lows') of outrage because the US is the home of (a staggering) 210 million people that are overweight. Spiritual health is, of course, more important than physical health, but when one's mind and heart are directed toward the right things, prudence and moderation come more easily in everything.

"lows" ??? That's nice.  Call overweight people cows.  Very charitable.





New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - wolseley - 11-19-2007

Cassius_Longinus Wrote:I wouldn't mind if the US were one of those "weird health nut countries".  You are right, Spooky, there would be howls (or maybe more accurately, 'lows') of outrage because the US is the home of (a staggering) 210 million people that are overweight.  Spiritual health is, of course, more important than physical health, but when one's mind and heart are directed toward the right things, prudence and moderation come more easily in everything.

If the US is going to become a "nanny state" and force us to "be healthy" for our "own good", then we should also demand universal health care, decent housing for all, a free college education for every citizen, and a guaranteed job for life when we get out. 

And all of it should be paid for by our benevolent government.  After all, it's for our own good. 

If they're not prepared to do that, then they need to stay out of it, mind their own business, and leave people alone.

As for the OP, it's the absolute most ridiculous thing I ever heard of.  Of course, what they're going on about is the utilitarian nature of the socialized health-care system, and saying "We don't want you, through your unhealthy habits, to overtax the system and make things worse for the rest of us."

And I will get flamed and but good for this, but that's only a short step away from "We don't want you, because you are crippled or elderly or diseased or ugly or whatever, to overtax the system and make things worse for the rest of us.  You are no longer useful to our society, so put on this paper robe and step over here to the gas chamber."

We're getting to the same point here in the erstwhile United States.  It reminds me of Logan's Run: if you're not young, healthy, and beautiful, you get disposed of "for the good of society".

Come, Lord Jesus.



New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Historian - 11-19-2007

Did anyone else catch this?
Quote:<p class="story2">New Zealand is critically short of skilled workers, and many large firms are intensively recruiting in Britain.
<p class="story2">Mr Trezise was recruited to supervise the Southern Cross Cable, which links New Zealand with Australia and the west coast of the United States.
<p class="story2">He is one of only four highly qualified specialist technicians working on the improvement of the cable.

Wouldn't Mr Trezise's taxes on his income more than make for any health issues he or his wife might bring to the country?




New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Historian - 11-19-2007

Good for grassfed New Zealand. Now they need to ban socialists and capitalists too.Why don't these two want to stay in their own country anyway?


New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Historian - 11-19-2007

Catholicmilkman Wrote:Good for grassfed New Zealand. Now they need to ban socialists and capitalists too.Why don't these two want to stay in their own country anyway?

Maybe because New Zealand is nicer than Wales?  Maybe they want a more rural lifestyle?
There's no rule that says you must live and die in the place you were born, as much as <i>you'd</i> like to demand it of everyone.



New Zealand: No Fat Chicks? - Cassius_Longinus - 11-19-2007

CaroleK Wrote:
Cassius_Longinus Wrote:I wouldn't mind if the US were one of those "weird health nut countries". You are right, Spooky, there would be howls (or maybe more accurately, 'lows') of outrage because the US is the home of (a staggering) 210 million people that are overweight. Spiritual health is, of course, more important than physical health, but when one's mind and heart are directed toward the right things, prudence and moderation come more easily in everything.

"lows" ??? That's nice. Call overweight people cows. Very charitable.

Relax, Mrs. Firecracker, and learn how to take a joke. (I'm a 29 on the BMI...that means technically I'm almost obese...MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...)

edited to add: CaroleK, after having read the 'pet peeves' section on your profile, I now totally understand what your reply was all about.