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Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - Joseph11 - 12-08-2009

I don't think he's going to follow-up Rosarium.  So far he hasn't responded to any post that throws into question the only point he keeps repeating:

It is heresy to say attending the Novus Ordo could be/is sinful.


Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - Scipio_a - 12-09-2009

OK...this thread has been going for a while now and it's time for me to make my speech that I always do when this NO thing starts to get out of hand, lest someone here gets pissed off at me that has no reason to...it goes like this:


As far as the NO and sin attending it...There are several on this forum that have no TLM near them or transportation to a TLM that some might consider bear enough ...

three come to mind right off the bat

Rosarium, Texican, and Satori

They are in the unenviable position of having to choose to go to Mass or not to go to Mass...NO only on a typical Sunday.

Here they must choose with their own conscience...they choose to go to Mass...I do not see a sin in this for them...they know what the Mass should be like but they are deprived of it by the local ordinary...and there just aren't enough SSPX and SSPV priests to go around...so they fall under the release to go to a Mass like that in a crisis, much like any of us could justify going to a Russian Orthodox Mass if we were in the heart of Russia...and no Roman priest was around for  a 1000 miles.


On top of that, I have been thinking recently about the sins I have committed and continue to commit...Now I have 5,,,that's right...5 TLMs to choose from (at least) there are 2 FSSP, 2 SSPX, and 1 indie sedevacantist chapel...so here I sit in this Ivory tower...as some might judge...and cast down heavy words against the NO....folks in TX's situation might take it the wrong way...don't...this is not about your unfortunate and burdensome situation (I know TX won't...he's see this caveat before)

But this gets me to something I alluded to on Lisa's goodbye for a few minutes thread...Is going to the NO more sinful than some of the shit I do and have been unable to confess since all 5...that's right....ALL 5 of my Mass choices are an hour away...and worse I work nothing but weekend nights...so Mass falls by the wayside for me often...often....now I have a dispensation from my priest...at least the one we had until last month....but that does not stop the build up on my soul...so I'm at a general impasse since the only  NO near here is a rotten new thing...you can tell by the building...and I have known a couple of parishioners....so I know what it's like


That said if I were in Satori's shoes I am pretty sure at this point that I would attend at St. Benedict's at least from time to time...and invoke the same crisis argument as laid out above


Funny, I mentioned this general line of thinking to UD and she had actually been thinking the same thing..."JUST NOT THE KIDS" ad her foot was down.


The above caveat DOES NOT apply to Caribore who has an easy to reach TLM...weekdays do not count for the crisis argument since they are extra credit affairs in most circumstances.



Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - Carnivore - 12-09-2009

(12-09-2009, 04:06 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: OK...this thread has been going for a while now and it's time for me to make my speech 

You stated that attending an Ordinary Form of the Mass is sinful?  Do you have any idea just how stultified that sounds?  Your credibility as a Catholic Christian was shot with that one...  :pazzo:


Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - Scipio_a - 12-09-2009

(12-09-2009, 04:23 AM)Carnivore Wrote:
(12-09-2009, 04:06 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: OK...this thread has been going for a while now and it's time for me to make my speech 

You stated that attending an Ordinary Form of the Mass is sinful?  Do you have any idea just how stultified that sounds?  Your credibility as a Catholic Christian was shot with that one...   :pazzo:

Yeah...I said that...I proved it...and I still say it.


Bud...on this board...guess who has no credibility...you...not me.


Maybe you don't understand the demographic around here...

The MAJORITY of people of this board would attend a sede Mass rather than a NO if those were the only choices presented


We have a huge group that attends SSPX and a similarly sized group that attends FSSP but would STILL avoid the NO at all costs....the we have many who go SSPV,  so go back to Catholic Wankers where they have learned to think critically and tow the line they've been fed


By the way...you've still said nothing of significance ,,just goofy contradiction and "you have no credibility, because I disagree with you even though I can't prove you wrong"


Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - Carnivore - 12-09-2009

(12-09-2009, 04:27 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: Yeah...I said that...I proved it...and I still say it.

The only thing you have "proven" is that you hold a belief that is erroneous.  Did you really think you could slide that though -- that you "proved it" without actually doing so?  :pazzo:


Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - franklinf - 12-09-2009

(12-09-2009, 04:23 AM)Carnivore Wrote:
(12-09-2009, 04:06 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: OK...this thread has been going for a while now and it's time for me to make my speech 

You stated that attending an Ordinary Form of the Mass is sinful?  Do you have any idea just how stultified that sounds?  Your credibility as a Catholic Christian was shot with that one...   :pazzo:

You sound like a broken record, how about you try not repeating yourself / responding to a different poster?

Look at what Scipio wrote.

"Scandal and Idolatry are sins...this we agree on.

If there is a service that calls itself Catholic...and there are abuses...especially repeated ones...but not necessarily...then at least the presider is sinning...anyone who understands what the Mass is...is also sinning by attending despite this knowledge by causing scandal...because it appears they are condoning that behavior.  So in this instance we have a sin in attending the NO"

Can you at least not see his point in this specific context (ie an abuse ridden Mass)? We should never take a minimalistic approach to the Mass. Its valid so it must be alright then...


Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - devotedknuckles - 12-09-2009

The NO is a protestant bastard mass. Its not catholic. Avoid it like the plague.
If u can't get to a mass for all time then stay home and make a spiritual communion. Avoid the NO. It was designwed for ruin of your soul and the church by a mason to make the mass protestant. This can't be denied it is fact.
It is a sin to worship at protestant shindigs which is what the no is.
If u don't get it tough.  Go back to catholic wankers where u belong
Sip



Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - farmamick - 12-09-2009

(12-09-2009, 10:50 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: The NO is a protestant bastard mass. Its not catholic. Avoid it like the plague.
If u can't get to a mass for all time then stay home and make a spiritual communion. Avoid the NO. It was designwed for ruin of your soul and the church by a mason to make the mass protestant. This can't be denied it is fact.
It is a sin to worship at protestant shindigs which is what the no is.
If u don't get it tough.  Go back to catholic wankers where u belong
Sip

Dammit, I miss that Fresh Fishy button! Dude, I don't think there is a single post from you that I haven't laughed at. Thanks!

MickeyMouse, you heard what the man said, go back to whereever it is you came from..


Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - Historian - 12-09-2009

Would it be sinful to attend a mass which was blatantly disrespectful to God?


Re: The Fundamentalist Catholic Flowchart -- a Good Laugh LOL! - devotedknuckles - 12-09-2009

Why would u want too?