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More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - Scipio_a - 12-16-2009

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20091208_xliii-world-day-peace_en.html


Pope makes calls for eviro awareness....In so doing he discovers new human rights...the Rights to health and development


Like all NO stuff it contains truth...such as people should not be considered after the environment but before... mixed in with the above stuff that makes no sense

It contains ambiguities:

Quote:Specifically, they call for a lifestyle marked by sobriety and solidarity, with new rules and forms of engagement, one which focuses confidently and courageously on strategies that actually work, while decisively rejecting those that have failed.


OK so which ones does this guy think have failed????  say it out loud  COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM and all forms there of....if it's not said the purveyors of the bad will read it such that what is successful....capitalism...is the failure ...they always do...and point to some failed device in the US or Europe...that is actually socialized and claim it is a failure of the capitalist system...LOL...sick


It is so long and boring I'm not going to look to see if it contains anything outright uncatholic


:puke: :puke:


Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - devotedknuckles - 12-16-2009

Horshooie!!
Scandalous!! How dare u use cursing!!!
Sip sip



Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - tradmaverick - 12-16-2009

lol


Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - Stephanos - 12-16-2009

Strange how the Holy Father explicitly mentions issues like solar energy, water "conservation", and other chic, modern buzzwords that make my brain melt.

Compare this to the rhetorical style of documents written by Pontiffs such as Pius X, XII, etc.  All their documents are clearly oriented toward the salvation of souls, the undeniable truth of a teaching, or whatnot.  Like Scipio said, most of these new documents are riddled with ambiguous language.


Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - Hotspurcantresistposting - 12-16-2009

Why does every anti-enviornment exposition always seem to have a hidden "coffer-filling" argument and the assumption that humans are independent of natural forces?


Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - matthew_talbot - 12-16-2009

(12-16-2009, 07:06 PM)Scipio_a Wrote: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20091208_xliii-world-day-peace_en.html


Pope makes calls for eviro awareness....In so doing he discovers new human rights...the Rights to health and development


Like all NO stuff it contains truth...such as people should not be considered after the environment but before... mixed in with the above stuff that makes no sense

It contains ambiguities:

Quote:Specifically, they call for a lifestyle marked by sobriety and solidarity, with new rules and forms of engagement, one which focuses confidently and courageously on strategies that actually work, while decisively rejecting those that have failed.


OK so which ones does this guy think have failed????   say it out loud   COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM and all forms there of....if it's not said the purveyors of the bad will read it such that what is successful....capitalism...is the failure ...they always do...and point to some failed device in the US or Europe...that is actually socialized and claim it is a failure of the capitalist system...LOL...sick


It is so long and boring I'm not going to look to see if it contains anything outright uncatholic


:puke: :puke:

Very good link Scip...Thanks



Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - glgas - 12-16-2009

FYI the Communism with the universal employment, universal health care, free education for evryone cared better for the disadvantaged the the Western Democracies, especially the US. I heard first the world world 'looser' in negative sense when I came here to the US.

The communism persecuted about 3 percent of the population, including my family and me, but we were the enemies of the people to prevent us to be winner or ones who successfully resist the power. The losers and disadvantaged got preferential treatment.

The were no homeless people, there were no jobless people, everybody got adequate health care, and (at least after 1970) adequate education.  This changed only afetr the socialism was replaced by the Capitalism in 1989.

The socialism did not failed for internal reason. it was deliberatelly changed, because half of those who run the East block (the 'grocers') wanted to get rid of the other half of the leaders, the populist, and change the political power to monetary power.  They prepared it beginning of 1983, secured their own safety from the sins against the humanity, and in some country slowly in other with manifest action declared the change on that way that the power remained in their hand. .

The failure of the 'new capitalism' is evident that the median living standard in the East block countries after 20 years is lower than it was in 1983. People eat less, people have less freely spendable money, less savings, the healthcare is significantly worse, the social security for the elderly is significantly worse, postsecondary education is available only for those who could pay for it etc, etc


(12-16-2009, 07:06 PM)Scipio_a Wrote: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20091208_xliii-world-day-peace_en.html

Quote:Specifically, they call for a lifestyle marked by sobriety and solidarity, with new rules and forms of engagement, one which focuses confidently and courageously on strategies that actually work, while decisively rejecting those that have failed.


OK so which ones does this guy think have failed????   say it out loud   COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM and all forms there of....if it's not said the purveyors of the bad will read it such that what is successful....capitalism...is the failure ...they always do...and point to some failed device in the US or Europe...that is actually socialized and claim it is a failure of the capitalist system...LOL...sick


It is so long and boring I'm not going to look to see if it contains anything outright uncatholic


:puke: :puke:



Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - Baskerville - 12-17-2009

I wonder when this Pope made the decision to just write worthless garbage?


Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - Joseph11 - 12-17-2009

When he involved a committee of Bertone picks in the writing of his stuff.


Re: More of the Same enviromental horsehooie - NorthernTrad - 12-18-2009

Another sign of the NEW Church herding sheep into the NEW World Order.  Novus Ordo....need we say more?