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Re: 'It is not lawful for me to fight.' - St. Martin of Tours - moneil - 11-11-2010

(11-11-2010, 10:17 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: Is the quote attributed to St. Martin accurate?

I can't say for sure, but here are two sources that attribute it to him:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/mary/martin.htm
http://subtuum.blogspot.com/2010/11/st-martin-of-tours-i-am-soldier-of.html


Re: 'It is not lawful for me to fight.' - St. Martin of Tours - Marc - 11-11-2010

Maybe St. Martin simply realized at this point that he could no longer continue to serve God as a soldier, that his vocation was elsewhere: "It is not lawful for me to fight."


Re: 'It is not lawful for me to fight.' - St. Martin of Tours - CrusaderKing - 11-11-2010

Here's some information about St. Martin of Tours from right here at Fisheaters:

http://www.fisheaters.com/customstimeafterpentecost15.html


Re: 'It is not lawful for me to fight.' - St. Martin of Tours - Vetus Ordo - 11-12-2010

(11-11-2010, 10:56 PM)Marc Wrote: Maybe St. Martin simply realized at this point that he could no longer continue to serve God as a soldier, that his vocation was elsewhere: "It is not lawful for me to fight."

He actually became a bishop later on, if I'm not mistaken.


Re: 'It is not lawful for me to fight.' - St. Martin of Tours - ketchum - 11-12-2010

(11-12-2010, 01:24 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(11-11-2010, 10:56 PM)Marc Wrote: Maybe St. Martin simply realized at this point that he could no longer continue to serve God as a soldier, that his vocation was elsewhere: "It is not lawful for me to fight."
he did
He actually became a bishop later on, if I'm not mistaken.



Re: 'It is not lawful for me to fight.' - St. Martin of Tours - Historian - 11-12-2010

(11-11-2010, 05:38 PM)Miquelot Wrote: St. Martin of Tours, a soldier in the Roman army, is to have famously told his commander, "It is not lawful for me to fight.”  Yet there is a long tradition of soldier-saints throughout Church history who not only did not refuse to fight (St. Alexander and the Theban Legion), but even attributed victory to the Christian God (St Andrew the Tribune and his Companions).  Why this seeming discrepancy? 

Don't forget he did not shirk going into battle. He volunteered to go first into battle (unarmed). However, the battle never took place. Peace was made, so no one else fought either.

I think the other posts explain why there is a difference. There is no discrepancy. The situations are different. Different people and different events make for different correct decisions.