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Father Villa and JP2 - Habitual_Ritual - 08-02-2011

Some pretty disturbing info here on the Pontificate and background of JP2:  PDF format btw.

http://www.padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/Chiesa_viva_430_S_en_tip-web.pdf


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - salus - 08-02-2011

This should be sent to the canonization committee, but doubt they would listen


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - crusaderfortruth3372 - 08-02-2011

(08-02-2011, 12:29 PM)salus Wrote: This should be sent to the canonization committee, but doubt they would listen

Of course they won't listen...

Who is Fr, Villa though?? Is he a Sede. or was he just some Traditionalist who exposed the errors of the Post Concliar pontiffs??


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - Habitual_Ritual - 08-02-2011

Father Villa

http://www.padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/Chi___don_Villa_OK_en.pdf


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - SaintRafael - 08-02-2011

"Father Luigi Villa was commissioned by Padre Pio and given a papal mandate from Pope Pius XII to dedicate his life to defend the Catholic Church from the work of Freemasonry – most especially Ecclesiastical Freemasonry"

http://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/frames-3-4-2005/aaa.htm


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - Old Salt - 08-02-2011

Blessed John Paul II is acknowledged by Christs Church, the Catholic Church as beatified, Blessed.
Though this is not an infallible declaration, it is worthy of great respect and John Paul II is worthy of being called Blessed.


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - crusaderfortruth3372 - 08-02-2011

(08-02-2011, 01:58 PM)SaintRafael Wrote: "Father Luigi Villa was commissioned by Padre Pio and given a papal mandate from Pope Pius XII to dedicate his life to defend the Catholic Church from the work of Freemasonry – most especially Ecclesiastical Freemasonry"

http://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/frames-3-4-2005/aaa.htm

Okay interesting, thank you!
Wasn't Our Lady of Good Success the most recently approved apparition in Wisconsin???


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - Louis_Martin - 08-02-2011

Why would a man forced to be ordained secretly, to live in an underground church, to have Mass in private chapels force the SSPX and traditional Catholics to do the same?
Why would a man who saw communism destroy the hearts of the polish people fail to decry communism at the second Vatican council?


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - SaintRafael - 08-02-2011

(08-02-2011, 02:11 PM)crusaderfortruth3372 Wrote: Okay interesting, thank you!
Wasn't Our Lady of Good Success the most recently approved apparition in Wisconsin???

No that was a different apparition. Our Lady of Good Success took place in the 17th century in Ecuador to a nun. Our Lady of Good Success revealed many prophesies of the 20th century about the Church, culture, and state of the world.

click on story of OLOGS link on the side
http://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/frames-3-4-2005/aaa.htm


Re: Father Villa and JP2 - ggreg - 08-02-2011

(08-02-2011, 02:05 PM)dan hunter Wrote: Blessed John Paul II is acknowledged by Christs Church, the Catholic Church as beatified, Blessed.
Though this is not an infallible declaration, it is worthy of great respect and John Paul II is worthy of being called Blessed.

If JP2 is "Blessed" then truth is mutable or error is a virtue.

Let's ignore the specifics of what he stood for, believed and actively promoted.  We all know what they were. The fact is, that in a world of absolute and unchangeable truth there is simply NO WAY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH to reconcile JP2s writings world and deeds with the writings words deeds and teaching of the Catholic Church that preceded him for hundreds of years.

If JP2 is Blessed, then how can Pius Xth also be Bessed and Canonized?  Pius Xth came up with the oath against modernism, which I would assume JP2 must have taken at his ordination in the 1940s.  How can he take an oath against modernism, then break that oath all the way through his clerical career and still be Blessed?  Oath breaking of that nature is grave matter and we have absolutely no evidence that he died repentant.  That is just one thing.

This makes no rational sense to me.  Can someone, anyone, square this circle?