(01-31-2012, 05:48 PM)shin Wrote: "The death of the impenitent persecutors of the Church will take place during the three days of darkness. He who survives those three days of darkness and horror will see himself as if alone, because the earth will be covered with cadavers".

St. Gaspar del Bufalo

'God will send two punishments: one will be in the form of wars, revolutions and other evils; it shall originate on earth. The other will be sent from Heaven. There shall come over the whole earth an intense darkness lasting three days and three nights. Nothing will be visible, and the air will be laden with pestilence which will claim mainly, but not only, the enemies of religion..'

Bl. Anna-Maria Taigi

'There will come three days of complete darkness. Only blessed candles made of wax will give some light during this horrible darkness. One candle will last for three days, but they will not give light in the house of the Godless. Lightning will penetrate your houses, but it will not put out the blessed candles. Neither wind, nor storm, nor earthquake will put out the blessed candles.'

Marie de La Fraudais (19th-20th Century) [stigmatic]

'. . . the Great Monarch...He shall be a great captain and prince of holy men, who shall be called 'the holy Cross-bearers of Jesus Christ,' with whom he will destroy the Mahometan sect and the rest of the infidels. He shall annihilate all the heresies and tyrannies of the world. He shall reform the Church of God by means of his followers, who shall be the best men upon the earth in holiness, in arms, in science, and in every virtue... They shall obtain dominion over the whole world, both temporal and spiritual...'

St. Francis of Paola

'there will be a great Pope...This Pope shall have with him, the Great Monarch...This Great Monarch will assist the Pope in the reformation of the whole earth...All nations shall recognize the Holy See of Rome, and shall pay homage to the Pope. But after some considerable time fervor shall cool...which shall bring upon mankind the last and worse persecution of Anti-Christ...There shall be great carnage.'

St. Caesarius of Arles (6th century)

'The Great King will wage war till he is fourty years of age. . . He will assemble great armies, and hurl back the tyrants out of his empire.'

St. Cataldus (7th century)

'Certain Doctors truly say, that one of the kings of the Frankish [Roman] Empire shall possess it in its entirety ["ex integro"], which King shall live in the last time and shall be the greatest and last of kings. Who after he shall have happily governed his Kingdom, shall come to Jerusalem and lay down his sceptre and crown on Mount Olivet. He shall be the last and consummate [Emperor] of the Roman and Christian Empire.

And immediately thereupon [after he lays down his sceptre and crown], according to the sentence of Paul, they [the Doctors] say Antichrist shall come.'

St. Anselm (11th century)

(01-31-2012, 05:51 PM)shin Wrote: These are all from various sources, so one could perhaps try to look at whether each source was reliable or not, but then when one looks at the whole -- there is that, and so..

(01-31-2012, 09:29 PM)thomas7 Wrote: So what we're left with is the rock solid scriptures of the books of Apocalypse and others with various interpretations AND numerous seers and saints descriptions of apocalyptic times that lie ahead.  With these seers having visions that don't  necessarily match what Scriptures state, I guess we're left with a bunch of overzealous , hallucinating visionaries? This might include Sr. Lucy and if I'm not mistaken, was accused of making up some Fatima visions.   I mean, are ALL of these people are off their rocker?  Maybe it's all a test from God to see how much faith we really have.

(01-31-2012, 05:39 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: How many of the martyrs lived?

(01-31-2012, 09:29 PM)thomas7 Wrote: So what we're left with is the rock solid scriptures of the books of Apocalypse and others with various interpretations AND numerous seers and saints descriptions of apocalyptic times that lie ahead.  With these seers having visions that don't  necessarily match what Scriptures state, I guess we're left with a bunch of overzealous , hallucinating visionaries? This might include Sr. Lucy and if I'm not mistaken, was accused of making up some Fatima visions.   I mean, are ALL of these people are off their rocker?  Maybe it's all a test from God to see how much faith we really have.

(01-31-2012, 02:28 PM)Melkite Wrote: Why do people take this seriously?  I mean, of course, they could be true, but step back for a minute.  NONE of this is even remotely hinted at in Scripture or Apostolic tradition.  So it's completely absent from Public Revelation.  Aside from being Christ-centered, what makes these prophecies any different from the whack-job New Age prophecies that we're headed to a new age of enlightenment, or this or that disaster to cleanse the earth, etc., etc.?  If there was anything important in any of this, or anything relevant to our spiritual life, why didn't Christ mention it or the Apostles record it anywhere?  It seems that many get so consumed by these prophecies that they forget the real point of the Gospel.  Rather than going to confession, receiving the sacraments, fasting and taking care of the poor, people are stocking up on blessed bees-wax candles and and plastic liners for their windows and vents.  I'm all for being prepared, even for the unlikely, but this smells an awful lot like new-age apocalyptic mumbo-jumbo to me.