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Re: Women Priests - divinesilence80 - 04-02-2014

Thanks everyone for schooling me on this! Those CBE people are really something. If you're interested, I'm Jose over there. Had to abbreviate my name since I got banned a few times lol

http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2014/03/i-am-sarah-fully-human/


Re: Women Priests - divinesilence80 - 04-06-2014

I'm back in town! Saw someone commented on my comment in CBE scroll.

Quote:So indirectly men (thought they had) “erased” the real Christian priesthood as an active force and replaced it with a complicated program of smoke and mirrors that, low and behold, removed women altogether from the record and enabled human sinners to confect God from a piece of bread! Now they gave themselves power not only over men but also power (very lucrative) to “control god” and to lock him in a box!

We do have the records of the women apostles Jesus sent: Mary Magdalene and the Samaritan women whom He met at Jacob’s well as well as Junia. These are the ‘sent’ women. Then there are Priscilla, Phoebe, and numerous other shepherds of the flock of Christ, or ‘fellow labourers’ (see Matthew 9:36-8 for labourers=shepherd analogy of Christ)

But then history and culture intervened. Many women have indeed been priests unto God and preachers of the word of God throughout history. while many names are erased or attributed to men, we still have records of many women, Phoebe Palmer, Catherine Booth, Fannie Crosby, Frances Ridley Havergal, Amanda Berry Smith, Amy Carmichael, Gladys Aylward, so many .women who have, unheralded, led thousands to Christ.

Any takers?


Re: Women Priests - Chestertonian - 04-06-2014

(04-06-2014, 09:14 PM)divinesilence80 Wrote: Any takers?

Not sure how one would go about reasoning with these people.  What's with the name dropping at the end... are we supposed to recognize these alleged "priestesses?


Re: Women Priests - Heorot - 04-06-2014

It's funny that the primary argument used by the pro-women-priest crowd revolves around a clever lie. I am referring to the argument which says: "in the pristine ancient Church, there were women priests... but then culture intervened".

Have these people even read the Scriptures, let alone Church history? Have they not seen that every single Evangelist records women as the first witnesses to see the risen Christ on Easter morning? Yes, women - that half of humanity seen as unreliable witnesses, prostitutes, and empty-headed kitchen utensils. Yes, that's just how everyone saw women back then, while they were slaughtering foreigners and asking God to send them pet dinosaurs for Christmas!

Hey, you wacky women-priest advocates, perhaps the Christians had a respectful view of women that radically different from the culture around them! Perhaps it was so different that it could not have come from them and their own 'culture', but it came from the Holy Spirit of the merciful Lord, the Son of God, who was sent by His Father.

The very fact that women were the first to see Christ was 'covered up' by Paul when writing 1 Corinthians 15 - he says the men saw Christ first. There is no mention of the women there... and yet the Holy Church included the Resurrection Gospels along with Paul in Her scripture canon, supposedly long after "culture intervened" to make the same Church into a hierarchical male-chauvinist sexist monstrosity!

Through all those "dark ages", when men were supposedly oppressing women priests and erasing their memory, why did they not delete Phoebe from Romans 15? The Canaanite Woman from John 4? Every other instance of Jesus Christ breaking social convention to show immense respect to women? The Church had plenty of chances to, and even did change history, according to the women-priest advocates... yet they didn't do it in the smallest of things, so why should we believe that they did it in the bigger things?!

These poor people! "Liberal" does not describe them; no, I am liberal, for Christ has liberated me. These people are enslaved to modern Western relativism and the sexual revolution. Let us pray for their healing and a restoration of the mind of Christ in them!


Re: Women Priests - divinesilence80 - 04-07-2014

(04-06-2014, 09:27 PM)Chestertonian Wrote:
(04-06-2014, 09:14 PM)divinesilence80 Wrote: Any takers?

Not sure how one would go about reasoning with these people.  What's with the name dropping at the end... are we supposed to recognize these alleged "priestesses?

Honestly, I don't know. They're nuts over there, but provide for comical relief.

(04-06-2014, 09:49 PM)Heorot Wrote: It's funny that the primary argument used by the pro-women-priest crowd revolves around a clever lie. I am referring to the argument which says: "in the pristine ancient Church, there were women priests... but then culture intervened".

Have these people even read the Scriptures, let alone Church history? Have they not seen that every single Evangelist records women as the first witnesses to see the risen Christ on Easter morning? Yes, women - that half of humanity seen as unreliable witnesses, prostitutes, and empty-headed kitchen utensils. Yes, that's just how everyone saw women back then, while they were slaughtering foreigners and asking God to send them pet dinosaurs for Christmas!

Hey, you wacky women-priest advocates, perhaps the Christians had a respectful view of women that radically different from the culture around them! Perhaps it was so different that it could not have come from them and their own 'culture', but it came from the Holy Spirit of the merciful Lord, the Son of God, who was sent by His Father.

The very fact that women were the first to see Christ was 'covered up' by Paul when writing 1 Corinthians 15 - he says the men saw Christ first. There is no mention of the women there... and yet the Holy Church included the Resurrection Gospels along with Paul in Her scripture canon, supposedly long after "culture intervened" to make the same Church into a hierarchical male-chauvinist sexist monstrosity!

Through all those "dark ages", when men were supposedly oppressing women priests and erasing their memory, why did they not delete Phoebe from Romans 15? The Canaanite Woman from John 4? Every other instance of Jesus Christ breaking social convention to show immense respect to women? The Church had plenty of chances to, and even did change history, according to the women-priest advocates... yet they didn't do it in the smallest of things, so why should we believe that they did it in the bigger things?!

These poor people! "Liberal" does not describe them; no, I am liberal, for Christ has liberated me. These people are enslaved to modern Western relativism and the sexual revolution. Let us pray for their healing and a restoration of the mind of Christ in them!

My thoughts exactly. They go on AND on AND on about their resumes as if that qualifies them to preach. Sad people, but yes lets pray for them.


Re: Women Priests - lumine - 04-07-2014

(04-06-2014, 09:14 PM)divinesilence80 Wrote: I'm back in town! Saw someone commented on my comment in CBE scroll.

Quote:So indirectly men (thought they had) “erased” the real Christian priesthood as an active force and replaced it with a complicated program of smoke and mirrors that, low and behold, removed women altogether from the record and enabled human sinners to confect God from a piece of bread! Now they gave themselves power not only over men but also power (very lucrative) to “control god” and to lock him in a box!

We do have the records of the women apostles Jesus sent: Mary Magdalene and the Samaritan women whom He met at Jacob’s well as well as Junia. These are the ‘sent’ women. Then there are Priscilla, Phoebe, and numerous other shepherds of the flock of Christ, or ‘fellow labourers’ (see Matthew 9:36-8 for labourers=shepherd analogy of Christ)

But then history and culture intervened. Many women have indeed been priests unto God and preachers of the word of God throughout history. while many names are erased or attributed to men, we still have records of many women, Phoebe Palmer, Catherine Booth, Fannie Crosby, Frances Ridley Havergal, Amanda Berry Smith, Amy Carmichael, Gladys Aylward, so many .women who have, unheralded, led thousands to Christ.

Any takers?

Well, from the name Phoebe Palmer on to the end, women were Protestant preachers.  Catherine Booth was the cofounder of the Salvation Army....
and Fanny Crosby and Frances Ridley Havergal were Protestants who wrote hymns....


Re: Women Priests - Chestertonian - 04-07-2014

(04-07-2014, 04:29 PM)lumine Wrote:
(04-06-2014, 09:14 PM)divinesilence80 Wrote: I'm back in town! Saw someone commented on my comment in CBE scroll.

Quote:So indirectly men (thought they had) “erased” the real Christian priesthood as an active force and replaced it with a complicated program of smoke and mirrors that, low and behold, removed women altogether from the record and enabled human sinners to confect God from a piece of bread! Now they gave themselves power not only over men but also power (very lucrative) to “control god” and to lock him in a box!

We do have the records of the women apostles Jesus sent: Mary Magdalene and the Samaritan women whom He met at Jacob’s well as well as Junia. These are the ‘sent’ women. Then there are Priscilla, Phoebe, and numerous other shepherds of the flock of Christ, or ‘fellow labourers’ (see Matthew 9:36-8 for labourers=shepherd analogy of Christ)

But then history and culture intervened. Many women have indeed been priests unto God and preachers of the word of God throughout history. while many names are erased or attributed to men, we still have records of many women, Phoebe Palmer, Catherine Booth, Fannie Crosby, Frances Ridley Havergal, Amanda Berry Smith, Amy Carmichael, Gladys Aylward, so many .women who have, unheralded, led thousands to Christ.

Any takers?

Well, from the name Phoebe Palmer on to the end, women were Protestant preachers.  Catherine Booth was the cofounder of the Salvation Army....
and Fanny Crosby and Frances Ridley Havergal were Protestants who wrote hymns....

Catholic women have plenty of opportunities to go out and evangelize and write hymns.  These people wouldn't know sacramental priesthood if it bit them in the face.


Re: Women Priests - saintandrew4life - 04-07-2014

there will never be a women priests


Re: Women Priests - jovan66102 - 04-12-2014

You know, I fought this battle 40+ years ago in the Anglican Church. There was little or no argument then of there having been women priests in the early Church. The big argument was that Christ had been 'conditioned' by his culture. :LOL: I often pointed out that A) God can't be 'conditioned', and B) that if he had been 'conditioned' he would have enthusiastically ordained women, since his entire world was surrounded by cults with priestesses. Only the small, insignificant sect of Judaism differed. The Church would probably have spread much faster had he 'gone with the flow'.

BTW, I left Anglicanism for Orthodoxy when they 'ordained' women as deacons. I saw that as the opening wedge for women 'priests'. A friend tried to dissuade me from leaving because, 'There would never be women priests'. A few years later, I ran into him in an Orthodox bookshop. He looked at me and said, 'Don't say anything! I know, you told me so.' He, his wife and children, 40+ other families and their pastor had been received en masse into Orthodoxy!


Re: Women Priests - divinesilence80 - 04-12-2014

(04-12-2014, 02:58 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: You know, I fought this battle 40+ years ago in the Anglican Church. There was little or no argument then of there having been women priests in the early Church. The big argument was that Christ had been 'conditioned' by his culture. :LOL: I often pointed out that A) God can't be 'conditioned', and B) that if he had been 'conditioned' he would have enthusiastically ordained women, since his entire world was surrounded by cults with priestesses. Only the small, insignificant sect of Judaism differed. The Church would probably have spread much faster had he 'gone with the flow'.

BTW, I left Anglicanism for Orthodoxy when they 'ordained' women as deacons. I saw that as the opening wedge for women 'priests'. A friend tried to dissuade me from leaving because, 'There would never be women priests'. A few years later, I ran into him in an Orthodox bookshop. He looked at me and said, 'Don't say anything! I know, you told me so.' He, his wife and children, 40+ other families and their pastor had been received en masse into Orthodoxy!

Love that story! They say you should never say never! Yeah, I'm done at CBE though. It's like a pit of despair there with power hungry females that think their desires are God. Too much "female brain."