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Catholicism and Corporate Culture - Sequentia - 04-23-2015

For those who work in a strong, extrovert, liberal corporate culture, how do you deal with it when you are essentially pressured into doing things that can violate your Catholic faith? I am finding now that as I continue my career, corporate culture strongly tries to "pull me in" into such things as social events, gossiping, social justice (being "asked" to donate to charitable organizations for example, that do not follow Catholic teaching), and so much more. Your company wants to influence every single moment of your personal life and meld what is your "private" and "work" life into one single thing. And if you don't become part of the corporate culture, any chances of "moving up the corporate ladder" become nil.

I'm sick of it to be honest. I have no interest in pursuing a worldly career especially when it is so hostile to Catholic or Christian morality. Managers will judge you even if you have excellent work performance. It's no wonder why so many of us end up on antidepressants or looking for other jobs elsewhere. Not only that but introverts seem to be hated, disliked, or mistrusted in a boisterous, loud (should I mention annoying?) business atmosphere even if they interact with employees and have stellar work performance.


Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - austenbosten - 04-24-2015

Yep know all about it. I am considering investing in real estate, so I can run my own business and do what I want.


Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - Leonhard - 04-24-2015

There has never been a time or place truly friendly and spiritually healthy to introverts, except perhaps a desert monastery.


Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - CaptCrunch73 - 04-24-2015

from a fellow introvert....

I work in a similar environment as you, and have spent a large part of my recent career as a manager, fortunately I have found corporations more supportive than individuals.

My approach has been to politely decline participating in anything that conflicts with my beliefs, on the rare occasion somebody pursues the issues I just said that I do not agree with x, y, z and left it at that. There were a few occasions where somebody was pushing a specific cause and emailed people constantly that I found annoying and I contacted the organizer and mentioned that while I support their right to support an organization the repeated emails were annoying and asked to be removed from the email list. Being candid, but not obnoxious, is usually sufficient to handle most situations, anyone who doesn't respond to that approach is likely trouble anyway, dont sweat it its not you.

If you are in the corporate world (1000+ employees) you could use the "big hammer" and contact the HR department. From my managerial training I found almost anything can be considered harassment and what you describe above would be certainly considered a form of harassment. That should be a last resort but if you feel you are being harrassed or pidgeon holed for your beliefs then by all means go that route.

Not sure if I agree with your stereotype of the corporate world. I've been employed in the software field for 30+ years and while I have seen the harassment you describe a few times those have tended to be smaller companies with bigger problems that did not last, larger companies must be more tolerant of various beliefs, including Catholic beliefs.

Do your best to thrive where you are, unless you are called to be a monastic you are where you are for a reason. Try to focus on that and offer up your anxieties as reparations.




Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - Credidi Propter - 04-24-2015

(04-23-2015, 10:11 PM)Sequentia Wrote: For those who work in a strong, extrovert, liberal corporate culture, how do you deal with it when you are essentially pressured into doing things that can violate your Catholic faith? I am finding now that as I continue my career, corporate culture strongly tries to "pull me in" into such things as social events, gossiping, social justice (being "asked" to donate to charitable organizations for example, that do not follow Catholic teaching), and so much more. Your company wants to influence every single moment of your personal life and meld what is your "private" and "work" life into one single thing. And if you don't become part of the corporate culture, any chances of "moving up the corporate ladder" become nil.

I'm sick of it to be honest. I have no interest in pursuing a worldly career especially when it is so hostile to Catholic or Christian morality. Managers will judge you even if you have excellent work performance. It's no wonder why so many of us end up on antidepressants or looking for other jobs elsewhere. Not only that but introverts seem to be hated, disliked, or mistrusted in a boisterous, loud (should I mention annoying?) business atmosphere even if they interact with employees and have stellar work performance.

I had an experience like that. I walked out. That day was the happiest I'd had in months. Don't just do that though. That extreme of a decision can only come with discernment. Do, however, pray. You need to discern what God wants you to do.


Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - Sequentia - 04-24-2015

I myself have not really faced any open hostilities about my Catholic faith (though I do occasionally receive a "smart" comment from a fellow co-worker who I do not interact with all that much), but my post is based more on what I am seeing in my company culture. I'm a subcontractor, so I'm essentially in two separate company cultures (due to the fact I have an employer but I am contracted for a client). I feel like I am truly integrated into the client's company culture because I spend maybe 90% of my work schedule with the client, but my employer I do not interact with all that much. The problem with employer interaction is that there are so many social events they host that have the potential for weeding out "bad behavior." The client seems more tolerant of religious beliefs, but my employer may not be-considering I do not know most of the other employees.

I am actually sort of discerning a religious vocation, but not as a nun/sister; but as a Benedictine oblate. I have to meet with my priest first but I have reached out to him letting him know my interest. I have been drawn to the Rule of St. Benedict and when I read it I "feel" like such things as work, prayer, and obedience are something I need more of in my life. But I am too crazy to become a monastic (hoarding problem, attention deficit disorder, anxiety, etc.) plus in debt from school. However I also don't think I am well grounded in my Catholic faith yet, not well catechized, not very good at praying/focusing, spiritually immature, too "me" focused still, use bad language, occasionally prideful, and still struggle with trying to truly love Jesus  (and people!).

I have developed a deep interest in monasticism (both east and west) over the past year and have realized the world is vanity. Despite this I have a profound love for God and the natural world he has created, which is perhaps why I have such an analytical mind and a desire to study the things He has created. It makes me so sad that the vast majority of scientists are atheists, that they cannot see everything as God's work.


Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - Renatus Frater - 04-24-2015

Well, if you do become an oblate and every one or two hours you take up your big breviarium to pray people will start noticing you more.  :P

In any case, your situation doesn't look so bad.


Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - medievalman86 - 04-24-2015

I like how in my world, they all love Jesus, hate what they think they know about catholicism, and try to solve my "problem" of being single by giving me escort sites to visit.



Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - Dirigible - 04-25-2015

(04-24-2015, 11:24 PM)medievalman86 Wrote: I like how in my world, they all love Jesus, hate what they think they know about catholicism, and try to solve my "problem" of being single by giving me escort sites to visit.

That's a peculiar way of loving Jesus.


Re: Catholicism and Corporate Culture - Pacman - 04-25-2015

(04-24-2015, 12:16 AM)austenbosten Wrote: Yep know all about it. I am considering investing in real estate, so I can run my own business and do what I want.

I understand what you're getting at. I recently started up a LinkedIn account to improve my employment interests. And the whole thing is oriented toward advertising your interest in this secular liberal agenda under the rubrics of 'human rights' and 'social justice'. So I have to lie about my interests to network.