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When to pray Matins?? - angeltime - 06-19-2018

Pax et Bonum!  I just wondered what time people are praying Matins?  I know even in Monasteries (some) that they are now working it in at an easier time to get a good night's sleep!  One I know of, is praying Matins before Mid-day prayer, so both Offices are over by 12:30 noon.  Any suggestions?  tks!
God bless, angeltime :heart:


RE: When to pray Matins?? - Paul - 06-19-2018

Traditionally, it's prayed at midnight, and, in choir, is never separated from Lauds (except on Christmas, when Midnight Mass is between the two). In the 1960 Rubrics, it's permitted to anticipate Matins (but not Lauds) on the previous day. Before then, you could anticipate both any time after 2 PM. In the Liturgy of the Hours, Matins (the Office of Readings) can be said at any time during the day, but never anticipated.

Privately you can do what you like. One option is to say tomorrow's Matins after Compline, to keep the entire day intact instead of interrupting it with part of tomorrow's Office. Since you're not bound to say the Office, you could say that day's Matins later in the day; I'd keep it at least before Vespers if not earlier.


RE: When to pray Matins?? - angeltime - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 05:29 PM)Paul Wrote: Traditionally, it's prayed at midnight, and, in choir, is never separated from Lauds (except on Christmas, when Midnight Mass is between the two). In the 1960 Rubrics, it's permitted to anticipate Matins (but not Lauds) on the previous day. Before then, you could anticipate both any time after 2 PM. In the Liturgy of the Hours, Matins (the Office of Readings) can be said at any time during the day, but never anticipated.

Privately you can do what you like. One option is to say tomorrow's Matins after Compline, to keep the entire day intact instead of interrupting it with part of tomorrow's Office. Since you're not bound to say the Office, you could say that day's Matins later in the day; I'd keep it at least before Vespers if not earlier.
Peace.....tks!  It sounds like a good plan to do it right after compline or early in the day - not take on a larger office when fatigue is setting in.....it's more difficult to absorb and contemplate the words if too tired.  Tks again and God bless, angeltime :heart:


RE: When to pray Matins?? - Credidi Propter - 06-19-2018

I would suggest that someone who is not in a monastery pray Matins, Prime, and Lauds when they wake up. Terce, Sext, and None should probably be said around lunchtime. They may all be done together, done two together and one alone, or all three staggered throughout midday. It just depends on the person’s needs and preferences. A good time for Vespers would be in the evening, before beginning the evening activities. Compline should probably be prayed just before bed.


RE: When to pray Matins?? - angeltime - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 06:35 PM)Credidi Propter Wrote: I would suggest that someone who is not in a monastery pray Matins, Prime, and Lauds when they wake up. Terce, Sext, and None should probably be said around lunchtime. They may all be done together, done two together and one alone, or all three staggered throughout midday. It just depends on the person’s needs and preferences. A good time for Vespers would be in the evening, before beginning the evening activities. Compline should probably be prayed just before bed.
Peace.....I can understand one who has a busy family schedule or work schedule doing a few offices together, however I really like to pray them independently if possible and when I am awake enough to absorb the words.....prayer really shouldn't become just "getting them done" although I can see that happening easily according to one's schedule.  Tks and God bless, angeltime :heart:


RE: When to pray Matins?? - karl - 06-19-2018

Given work, and the fact I'm not a morning person, I usually anticipate Matins right before Compline the night before.


RE: When to pray Matins?? - angeltime - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 09:10 PM)karl Wrote: Given work, and the fact I'm not a morning person, I usually anticipate Matins right before Compline the night before.
Peace.....that sounds good!  I just completed Compline and Matins in that order & it seems to work fine.....God bless, angeltime :heart:


RE: When to pray Matins?? - formerbuddhist - 06-20-2018

I like to pray it sometime between 415 and 6am. If i miss that range i skip it,or just read the lessons. As a layman you can do what you want. Some folks even say it the night before. In my LAP Matins book there is even a hymn that you can use if you pray Matins the night before.


RE: When to pray Matins?? - Melkite - 06-20-2018

(06-19-2018, 09:10 PM)karl Wrote: Given work, and the fact I'm not a morning person, I usually anticipate Matins right before Compline the night before.

I understand that lay use is not held to the same rules as in the monasteries, but why would Matins come before Compline?  That seems a little bit like having tomorrow morning's breakfast before this evening's dinner.


RE: When to pray Matins?? - Paul - 06-20-2018

(06-20-2018, 09:12 AM)Melkite Wrote:
(06-19-2018, 09:10 PM)karl Wrote: Given work, and the fact I'm not a morning person, I usually anticipate Matins right before Compline the night before.

I understand that lay use is not held to the same rules as in the monasteries, but why would Matins come before Compline?  That seems a little bit like having tomorrow morning's breakfast before this evening's dinner.

Matins can be anticipated after 2 PM, and this way ends the day with Compline and keeps Matins after first Vespers of the following feast, if it occur. I agree it seems a bit odd.