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Jesuit Superior contradicts Holy Father on Satan - LionHippo - 08-21-2019

Well, Fr. Arturo Sosa, he of "the evangelists didn't have tape recorders" fame, recently claimed that Satan is just a "symbolic reality" (oxymoronic modernist Jesuit-speak). 

Perhaps he did not read Pope Francis's recent exhortation on holiness (Gaudete et exsultate), wherein Chapter 5 - entitled "more than a myth" - the Holy Father writes, "That final word does not refer to evil in the abstract; a more exact translation would be “the evil one”. It indicates a personal being who assails us. Jesus taught us to ask daily for deliverance from him, lest his power prevail over us."

I have not read Taylor Marshall's book "Infiltration" (I'm not sure I've seen a thread on here about it either, but it has mixed reviews out in the Catholic web world).  But at some point, is a "reverse infiltration" warranted?  That is, should traditionally-minded young men discerning vocations choose  to join orders like the Jesuits to help regain their orthodoxy?  Obviously easier said than done, but just a thought experiment.

RE: Jesuit Superior contradicts Holy Father on Satan - Augustinian - 08-21-2019

To be fair, it is a symptom of the "Nouvelle theologie" to view Satan and his devils as mere platonic forms which need to be "cast out" of the individual rather than personal, spiritual creatures. So I'm not surprised to hear that.

RE: Jesuit Superior contradicts Holy Father on Satan - MaryTN - 08-22-2019

I avoid the Jesuits.  Really.

Jesuit Superior contradicts Holy Father on Satan - SeeTheLight - 08-23-2019

St. Ignatius of Loyola has got to be rolling over in his grave over the state of his order. So so sad. I'm sure there are still a few good ones out there.

RE: Jesuit Superior contradicts Holy Father on Satan - Florus - 08-23-2019

Not just contradicting the Pope, but the Catholic understanding of Satan.

RE: Jesuit Superior contradicts Holy Father on Satan - whitewashed_tomb - 08-28-2019

At my family parish growing up, there was an Australian Jesuit priest who would sometimes visit and preside over the liturgy. He was an academic with long white hair and a bushy white beard, and with his Aussie accent and down-to-earth, avuncular style, I was immediately drawn to him as a kid.

Well, he had a number of unorthodox views. He said the multiplication of loaves and fishes was actually just people sharing. He also said that Satan was merely a metaphorical personification of evil and didn't actually exist. All this was music to my rebellious young adult ears.

I eventually fell away from the Church in my teens. However, a number of years into my apostasy, I decided to contact this priest in Australia and see how he was doing. I told him that I had fallen away, and in his reply to me, he gave me some words of advice that planted the seeds for my eventual reversion. 

He told me to remember that God loves me and that he became one of us out of the sheerest esteem for the human race, and that the Eucharist is nourishment enough and mystery enough.

These words touched me even at the time of my apostasy. While I might fault this Jesuit priest for contributing to my apostasy with his unorthodox views, I must credit him for helping me to find my way back to the Church. He didn't have to tell me anything like what he told me, but he did. So, I don't blame him at all, and I'm very grateful for his influence on my life, even though I now disagree with his erroneous views and interpretations.