+Sheen on "Firing Line" with William F. Buckley, Jr.
Haven't watched this yet, but thought I'd post it anyway. Enjoy :) It was recorded on January 6, 1970, according to the description.
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A meeting of two great minds indeed. It gets very interesting at about 24:00.

Prior to that is also of interest, but it is a discussion that only someone, like me, who was alive at the times they speak about, vis-a-vis: The Viet Nam War. At the time this was recorded, I had just got my Selective Service Lottery number and the reward was not cash; it was would you get selected to be drafted into the Army or Marines and mostly, without any recourse to not go to war. When your 'in the sights' and you know it, your life takes a different sort of bent. Getting selected, as I was, really gives a young man (women were not drafted, BTW) pause and reflection on one's path in life. Quite the maturing event!

But as for the video, the discussions from the above point on is more along the lines of ecumenism in the post Vat II world and how this effects the society as opposed to the effects of the secular zeitgeist of the time and interestingly, how this action has projected into current times.

One great quote of Abp. Sheen from the video, regarding "the poor", at about 46:00: "Listen, there is a great deal of difference, Mr. Greenfield[?], between the poor of '50 and the poor of today [1970] and this is something to take cognizance of. Today the poor know they are poor and that is the great difference."  Sooo true!!


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Thanks for posting, Vox. Very interesting interview. I've always loved William Buckley, he's a great host, he presses his guests but never berates them.

Fulton Sheen's memory and intelligence is very impressive, it was interesting to see him being pushed on some of these issues and conceding to Buckley's arguments in many cases. 

I have to admit I was disappointed to see him skirting around the issue of the crises of faith and possibility that the Church's actions and statements in the 50s/60s might have played a part in this. Fulton Sheen seems to share in the very optimistic view of Vatican II that "opening up the Church to the world" (hard to know exactly what that means) was a great idea, and that even though we are currently experiencing some issues, things will inevitably work themselves out. 

Fulton Sheen was undoubtedly a holy and brilliant man, but unfortunately, he seemed to have just gone along with the mainstream after Vatican II and probably sincerely believed that the council was pushing the Church into the right direction, as I think we see in this interview.
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