very curious statement
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<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">"It seems to sum up a position very similar to that of some traditional Catholics though he is a socialist or some kind of communist."
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Some yes.  I wish to stress the word some.  I am a Traditional Catholic and yes some do hold similar views as the man you quote.  The socialist is not as much an irony as one would assume.  The English Catholics became involved in the Distrabutionist movement.  You will find frequent commentary on Chesterton and Balloc among others from the late 19th to early 20th centuries.  From there it spread to the US and among some Irish Catholics.  In short it claims to advocate the Medieval Guild system and a form of redistribution of wealth.
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I think it is easy to see the similarity to modern socialism with that short description.  It clearly has a more religious flavor (and in that regard a better choice than the secular socialism) still it is redistribution of wealth which may explain the 20th centuries history of Catholic voting block generally favoring the more socialist leaning Democratic party in this country.  There are exceptions but in general you see most Catholic voters favoring the soft left.
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The extreme tilt left has offended most Traditional Catholics in the last few decades so there is clearly a shift but many still harbor fond feelings to more socialistic forms of government.  One seminarian I talked to a few years ago was in undisguised awe of Fascist Spain.  I was a little surprised and he explained the Fascist were attempting to combine the socialist goals of the modern era with Catholic doctrine.
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I do not see Franco of Spain as being the big evil many leftist what to make out of him but he was a socialist of the nationalist flavor in total opposition to the International flavor of socialism better known as communism.
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The Pope spoke out against both Germany's Nazis (National Socialist Workers Party) and the Fascist of Italy in encyclical in the era they rose to power.
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">That a left leaning playwright sees the Jews in the same light as some of my more strident pew mates does not surprise me in the least.
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The irony is too many Jews hold the very same political views and are more than willing to side with people they should be cautious in supporting.  I would wish they would listen to Traditional Catholics that do not share this view but they seem to only hear their critics and not those who would love to see them in Church one Sunday.
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Pray for the conversion of the Jews.
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It is more work than complaining about a change in the Good Friday Prayer but it is more useful.
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very curious statement - by winoblue1 - 03-04-2009, 01:36 AM
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