Dignitatis Humanae Revisited
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(05-21-2009, 08:48 PM)columba Wrote:
(05-21-2009, 05:48 PM)anthony Wrote: Mirai Vos, while I have only read it once, seems to be irrelevant to a discussion of current affairs. While the ideal stays the same, we live in an imperfect world, and one that has drastically changed from that of Gregory, Clement and Pius.

I understand where you are coming from. You seek practical, real-world solutions that can actually work. However, you must ask yourself if you have not been misled by the media milieu. Turn off the TV!!

The only "world" that concerns the documents in question is human nature, which has not changed one iota. You can be sure that enemies of the Church operate accordingly while covering their tracks with media illusions of "change". They genuinely fear the teachings of the old Popes while pretending to despise them. Wake up my friend.

Has implementation of Vatican II actually helped or hurt the Church over the past 45 years?

The implimentation that took place has not been satisfactory. Its better than nothing. But members of the Church have indeed been mislead by secular propaganda, and have taken great liberties with the council mandates. Paul VI set the record I'm afraid. :(

I seek something of a practical approach. Right. I don't think there's harm in that, so long as we know who we are and why we're here. We're not here to twiddle our thumbs while the world sends itself to hell. Nor can we keep this from happening by shouting from atop some tower with no means of condescending below. This is what I think DH stood for, that condescension. It was not extremely well done. It was too modest an effort in my opinion...But I don't know if the council fathers weren't limited in what they could say, politically, and if they lacked a kind of hindsight that would give them confidence in making more risky (by the world's standards) comments.

I find this essay quite helpful.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=YT0Co8ky...t&resnum=1
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Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by moneil - 05-17-2009, 09:50 PM
Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by SCG - 05-17-2009, 11:05 PM
Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by Underdog - 05-18-2009, 12:33 AM
Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by moneil - 05-18-2009, 12:57 AM
Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by Scipio_a - 05-18-2009, 01:25 AM
Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by Underdog - 05-18-2009, 01:27 AM
Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by moneil - 05-18-2009, 01:58 AM
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Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by columba - 05-18-2009, 02:36 PM
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Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by GodFirst - 05-18-2009, 04:47 PM
Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by GodFirst - 05-18-2009, 05:16 PM
Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by columba - 05-18-2009, 05:39 PM
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Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by columba - 05-19-2009, 07:32 PM
Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by columba - 05-20-2009, 04:06 PM
Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by anthony - 05-21-2009, 11:38 AM
Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by columba - 05-21-2009, 01:38 PM
Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by INPEFESS - 05-21-2009, 03:38 PM
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Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by anthony - 05-21-2009, 05:48 PM
Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by INPEFESS - 05-21-2009, 06:30 PM
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Re: Dignitatis Humanae Revisited - by columba - 05-21-2009, 08:48 PM
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