New GIRM?
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(12-28-2009, 03:43 PM)Petertherock Wrote: As for kneelers, our priest told us that up until the middle ages Catholics were forbidden to kneel on Sundays because kneeling was associated with service. In fact servants would kneel before their master and the master would put his foot on them as a sign of power. It wasn't until the middle ages that people started kneeling at Mass.

That's absurd. Though if the eastern practice is any guide, it's probably true that kneeling didn't become quite so synonymous with (western) Catholic practice until much later in history. The development of feudalism may have played a small part in this, though for the opposite reasons your pastor described. In the age of antiquity, servitude (i.e. slavery) was a sorry state of life. But in a way, medieval feudalism, with the influence of Christianity, helped sanctify gestures of submission. The best way to explain it would be that feeling you get if you consider it an honour to kneel before your king or whatever. Another example might be how the highest-ranking nobles of the kingdoms fought for the right to do things like serve the king's dinner or hold the bowl to wash his hands.
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New GIRM? - by Petertherock - 12-28-2009, 02:42 AM
Re: New GIRM? - by Baskerville - 12-28-2009, 02:53 AM
Re: New GIRM? - by Petertherock - 12-28-2009, 03:12 AM
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Re: New GIRM? - by Petertherock - 12-28-2009, 02:45 PM
Re: New GIRM? - by Historian - 12-28-2009, 03:28 PM
Re: New GIRM? - by The_Harlequin_King - 12-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Re: New GIRM? - by Petertherock - 12-28-2009, 03:39 PM
Re: New GIRM? - by Historian - 12-28-2009, 03:41 PM
Re: New GIRM? - by Petertherock - 12-28-2009, 03:43 PM
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Re: New GIRM? - by Historian - 12-29-2009, 12:01 AM
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Re: New GIRM? - by DesperatelySeeking - 01-01-2010, 09:11 AM
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