The Luminous Mysteries ? JP2
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Pope John Paul II set up division through his misguided novelty. He also furthered the error of Papal idolatry. The new mysteries caused Catholics to fall into the trap of idolatry since ignorant Catholics felt that they must accept the mysteries solely on the grounds that the mysteries came from the Pope and it would be disobedience to reject it. These Catholics unfortunately had no clue about the history of the Rosary or the limits of Papal power and infallibility.  [/quote]

:deadhorse: :deadhorse:

I do not see any division with the Mysteries of Light because no one is forced to accept them; it is in no way a matter of obedience.  And a trap with idolatry??? Get real!  These are instances from the Gospel! And I am not, for example, an ignorant Catholic. 12 years of Catholic school--yes, before modernism-- 10 years of religious formation, again not modernist, and graduate school in moral theology from a very good college and seminary.  I do have a clue about the history of the rosary. 

The assertations about ignorance and idolatry are personal opinion and not fact. This has nothing to do with infallibility by the way. And the pope can put forth whatever suggestions he wishes. He is the vicar of Christ on earth.  Again, there is just a lot of pope bashing and so forth on this forum.  And this is pleasing to God for His Vicar to be detracted?  And as far as the worst pope ever....study the popes of the middle ages, like when there were three popes or the popes who had children and mistresses and so forth. There have been worse popes. Still whatever your personal opinion on PJPII is, the Holy Father did not make errors in the matter of faith and morals when he spoke from the chair. And neither did those immoral middle ages popes either,  in spite of their own personal lives.  There is a certain protection by the Holy Spirit for this holy office. This is what you learn when you study church history, which I have by the way.
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The Luminous Mysteries ? JP2 - by Chris87 - 04-22-2010, 02:29 PM
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