There is No Such Thing as a Homosexual Catholic Priest
Quote:Why would St. Paul be condemning homosexual behavior twice?  I.e., "effeminate" and "liers with mankind"?  He's not.

Yes he is.  Effeminate refers to those who are passive in the sodomitic act (receive penile penetration) and liers with mankind refers to those who are active (perpetrate the penetration).  This would be very evident to the Corinthians to whom Paul is writing as the ritual prostitution of both males and females (as well as aristocratic pederasty) was widely practiced in Corinth's cult of Aphrodite.

The Fathers you quote do not deny this; they go further into the causes of this perversion in perfect agreement with St. Paul's doctrine in Romans 1 that the rejection of God in the mind leads to depravity of life.  This also agrees with the Lord's proclamation through the Prophet Ezekiel on the causes of the outrageous perversions in Sodom and Gomorrah:

Quote:"Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom thy sister, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters: and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and to the poor.  And they were lifted up, and committed abominations before me: and I took them away as thou hast seen."  Ez. 16:49-50

Douay-Rheims Bible also adds this commentary:
[49] "This was the iniquity of Sodom"... That is, these were the steps by which the Sodomites came to fall into those abominations for which they were destroyed. For pride, gluttony, and idleness are the highroad to all kinds of lust; especially when they are accompanied with a neglect of the works of mercy.

Surely you won't argue that the men of Sodom were not depraved homosexuals!

In any event, it is the New Birth in Christ that is the issue here.
"If so be that you have heard him, and have been taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus: To put off, according to former conversation, the old man, who is corrupted according to the desire of error. And be renewed in the spirit of your mind: And put on the new man, who according to God is created in justice and holiness of truth." Eph.4:21-24

How can the new man created by God in justice and holiness of truth be defined by a proclivity to mortal sin? And what is the renewing of the mind?

"Beware lest any man cheat you by philosophy, and vain deceit; according to the tradition of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ: For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead corporeally; And you are filled in him, who is the head of all principality and power." Colossians 2:8-10

God has made us new creations in Christ - literally recreated us in Him!
"If then any be in Christ a new creature, the old things are passed away, behold all things are made new." 2 Cor. 5:17
and "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature." Galatians 6:15

I could go on and on and on - this is the basic message of the New Testament. God calls all men everywhere to repent and receive the grace of conversion in Jesus Christ. This is a radical reorienting away from the way this world thinks and operates (Rom. 12:1-2) to the new life of supernatural grace in Christ:

"For it is God who worketh in you, both to will and to accomplish, according to his good will." Phil. 2:13

There is no room here for clinging to a homosexual identity without a formal or material denial of Christ's work in the regenerated Christian.


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Re: There is No Such Thing as a Homosexual Catholic Priest - by Catholic Johnny - 02-20-2011, 10:41 PM

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