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Gregory I,
Please note that the propositions were all condemned.  So, saying that catechumens cannot have perfect charity (and remission of sins) is erroneous; what was condemned in n. 1031 was that catechumens could have perfect charity without also the remission of sins.  I also forgot to refer to another condemned proposition:

"1043 43. In persons who are penitent before the sacrament of absolution, and in catechumens before baptism, there is true justification, yet separated from the remission of sin."

Saying that catechumens cannot have repentance unto justification and remission of sins is false.  Now, if catechumens can have perfect charity (n. 1031), and one who has perfect charity is not damned (n. 1070), then it follows that catechumens who have perfect charity are not damned, and are thus in a state of justification/sanctifying grace (stated explicitly in n. 1043).

I've yet to come across one theologian who's interpreted Ex Omnibus Afflictionibus in the same manner as you have.  On the contrary, whenever it's been cited, it's been done so in favor of baptism of desire (e.g., Solà; McAuliffe;  Hervé, III: 563; Merkelbach, III, 113; see my link to Fr. Cekada's article for the first two authors).

See also http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm#X for an appeal to Ex Omnibus Afflictionibus in support of BoD.
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