Pacifism
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(08-04-2011, 10:05 PM)INPEFESS Wrote:
(08-04-2011, 09:31 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(08-04-2011, 09:08 PM)INPEFESS Wrote: But again, I think you miss the principle of the issue.

And I think you miss the principles of English grammar.

***Edited to add***

Unless, of course, you believe that the God damned Muslims worship the same God we do and can find salvation in their infidelity, in which case you might be right.

No, you are confusing the issue by adding your own qualifiers to what was said to make distinctions to mitigate and cover up what was said.

The word calls upon God, in vain, to judge as damned, indiscriminately and without qualification, all Muslims, even those who are yet living. "Principles of grammar" cannot cover this up, no matter how much that may be desirable.

Doesn't the Christian religion teach that you're supposed to be praying for their conversion before they go to the judgment seat of God, not calling upon God, in vain, to judge them as damned on account of the fact that they have so far presumably resisted His grace? Isn't there a commandment against calling upon God in vain in any context, let alone to call upon Him in vain to judge as damned those to whom we should beg that He show mercy? God has been merciful with us; we should pray that He shows them as much mercy as He has shown us instead of invoking God's wrath to judge those whom He has willed should yet have more time to repent.

Dear Inpefess:  Your thoughts are those of a cloistered monk or a convent sister.  Definitely you are passive.  But in the real world of today, at this moment, worldwide, muslims are butchering christians in Africa and Asia precisely because of their faith in Our Lord and in Our Lady.  May all those murderers go to you know where.  Once there, they will learn to respect the life of fellow christians who love Our Lord and Our Lady and despise Mahomet.  I don't know where you live but if you are christian, soon they will visit you, burn your house down and kill your wife and children.  Then what will you do?  Pray like a woman or act like a man?
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Pacifism - by K3vinhood - 08-04-2011, 06:00 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 06:17 PM
Re: Pacifism - by matthew_talbot - 08-04-2011, 07:45 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-04-2011, 08:03 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 08:09 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-04-2011, 08:11 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 08:14 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-04-2011, 08:24 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 08:32 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-04-2011, 09:08 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-04-2011, 09:23 PM
Re: Pacifism - by Gorgondie - 08-04-2011, 09:26 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-04-2011, 09:31 PM
Re: Pacifism - by Gorgondie - 08-04-2011, 09:40 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-04-2011, 09:45 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-04-2011, 10:05 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-04-2011, 10:08 PM
Re: Pacifism - by LausTibiChriste - 08-04-2011, 10:19 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 10:51 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 10:59 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 11:06 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 11:15 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 11:18 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 11:20 PM
Re: Pacifism - by K3vinhood - 08-04-2011, 11:21 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 11:26 PM
Re: Pacifism - by Vetus Ordo - 08-04-2011, 11:28 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-04-2011, 11:34 PM
Re: Pacifism - by LausTibiChriste - 08-04-2011, 11:35 PM
Re: Pacifism - by Vetus Ordo - 08-04-2011, 11:59 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 12:13 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 12:17 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 12:37 AM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-05-2011, 12:52 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 12:56 AM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-05-2011, 01:01 AM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-05-2011, 01:05 AM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-05-2011, 01:13 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 01:22 AM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-05-2011, 01:43 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 01:46 AM
Re: Pacifism - by K3vinhood - 08-05-2011, 02:01 AM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-05-2011, 02:04 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 02:14 AM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-05-2011, 02:24 AM
Re: Pacifism - by Vetus Ordo - 08-05-2011, 10:13 AM
Re: Pacifism - by Landelinus - 08-05-2011, 10:44 AM
Re: Pacifism - by devotedknuckles - 08-05-2011, 11:49 AM
Re: Pacifism - by Vetus Ordo - 08-05-2011, 11:59 AM
Re: Pacifism - by devotedknuckles - 08-05-2011, 12:18 PM
Re: Pacifism - by obscurus - 08-05-2011, 01:06 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-06-2011, 09:51 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-06-2011, 10:08 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-06-2011, 10:12 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-06-2011, 10:14 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-06-2011, 10:26 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-06-2011, 10:34 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-06-2011, 10:45 PM
Re: Pacifism - by K3vinhood - 08-06-2011, 10:46 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-06-2011, 10:50 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-06-2011, 11:59 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 03:49 AM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-07-2011, 03:56 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 04:03 AM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-07-2011, 04:08 AM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 04:34 AM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-07-2011, 05:03 AM
Re: Pacifism - by CaoimhinPConnell - 08-07-2011, 01:22 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-07-2011, 04:37 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-07-2011, 04:46 PM
Re: Pacifism - by obscurus - 08-07-2011, 05:03 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 05:39 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 05:40 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-07-2011, 05:48 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-07-2011, 05:53 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 09:24 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 09:26 PM
Re: Pacifism - by SouthpawLink - 08-07-2011, 09:27 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-07-2011, 09:40 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-08-2011, 12:28 AM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-08-2011, 01:02 PM
Re: Pacifism - by Scriptorium - 08-08-2011, 02:58 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-08-2011, 05:33 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-08-2011, 05:41 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-08-2011, 05:45 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-08-2011, 05:55 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-08-2011, 07:36 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-08-2011, 08:12 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-08-2011, 08:24 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-08-2011, 08:35 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-08-2011, 08:37 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-08-2011, 08:46 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-08-2011, 11:44 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-08-2011, 11:44 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-09-2011, 03:38 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-09-2011, 04:37 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-09-2011, 05:51 PM
Re: Pacifism - by jovan66102 - 08-09-2011, 05:53 PM
Re: Pacifism - by INPEFESS - 08-09-2011, 05:56 PM
Re: Pacifism - by UnamSanctam - 08-09-2011, 07:18 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-09-2011, 07:21 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-09-2011, 07:22 PM
Re: Pacifism - by wulfrano - 08-09-2011, 07:25 PM



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