Pope's failure in Germany
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(09-24-2011, 06:57 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(09-24-2011, 06:52 PM)Crusading Philologist Wrote:
(09-24-2011, 06:47 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(09-24-2011, 01:49 PM)Freudentaumel Wrote: Unlike the World youth day visit, this is not a pastoral visit. This is a state visit. The pope was invited as a head of state by the German head of state.

Christ cannot be absent from politics. He is the foundation of all political power.

But I guess it's complicated to bring Christ into the equation for someone who believes so strongly in "healthy laicism."

The Pope did speak about God quite a bit, you know. Yes, it would have been even better if he had mentioned the Social Kingship of Christ, but it's not like his speech was an example of raving secularist propaganda.

Wow, the Pope spoke of God? How courageous of him.

It's certainly more than what you're willing to give him credit for. You're acting as if he thinks religion has no place in the public sphere. This is clearly not the case.

(09-24-2011, 06:57 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: In the philosophical scheme of "healthy laicism", all religions contribute to build up society and its laws, respecting each other as a unique and positive contributor for the common good. This is not about preaching the Gospel but about building the New World Order.


Throughout the speech, the Holy Father argues that Western concepts of law and human dignity are rooted in Christianity and its acceptance of the classical traditions of law and philosophy. He obviously believes that Christianity has played an essential role in shaping Western political discourse. He isn't treating all religions as equal.
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Pope's failure in Germany - by Vetus Ordo - 09-24-2011, 10:17 AM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by lauermar - 09-24-2011, 11:31 AM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Thomas58 - 09-24-2011, 12:04 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Thomas58 - 09-24-2011, 12:27 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by timoose - 09-24-2011, 12:51 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Landelinus - 09-24-2011, 12:57 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Valz - 09-24-2011, 01:14 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Freudentaumel - 09-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Valz - 09-24-2011, 01:52 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Freudentaumel - 09-24-2011, 02:05 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Landelinus - 09-24-2011, 02:30 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Freudentaumel - 09-24-2011, 02:48 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by tradne4163 - 09-24-2011, 03:44 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Dewi - 09-24-2011, 03:56 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by City Smurf - 09-24-2011, 04:39 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Adam Wayne - 09-24-2011, 04:46 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by City Smurf - 09-24-2011, 04:53 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Adam Wayne - 09-24-2011, 05:00 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Vetus Ordo - 09-24-2011, 05:22 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by FHM310 - 09-24-2011, 06:32 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Vetus Ordo - 09-24-2011, 06:47 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Vetus Ordo - 09-24-2011, 06:57 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Crusading Philologist - 09-24-2011, 07:28 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by dan hunter - 09-24-2011, 08:28 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Vetus Ordo - 09-24-2011, 08:39 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Vetus Ordo - 09-24-2011, 09:07 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by dan hunter - 09-24-2011, 09:28 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by GottmitunsAlex - 09-24-2011, 09:36 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by dan hunter - 09-24-2011, 09:39 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by dymphna17 - 09-24-2011, 10:09 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by INPEFESS - 09-25-2011, 01:10 AM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Freudentaumel - 09-25-2011, 08:04 AM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Dewi - 01-27-2012, 06:29 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by SaintSebastian - 01-27-2012, 07:38 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Guardian - 01-27-2012, 08:04 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by SouthpawLink - 01-27-2012, 08:35 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by SaintSebastian - 01-27-2012, 11:55 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Dewi - 01-28-2012, 12:02 AM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Richard C - 01-28-2012, 12:13 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by Magdalene - 01-28-2012, 12:58 PM
Re: Pope's failure in Germany - by drummerboy - 01-28-2012, 01:23 PM



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