Jan 21 Bp Williamson column
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(01-23-2012, 01:41 AM)calicatholic Wrote: It's very convenient to say " well, we're outside of the authority of the Church, so we're immune from needing to conform to the errors".  I think the real danger is that the longer this situation exists - now a full generation - you will have Catholics who grow up in the SSPX Church who know nothing but that,

Wishful thinking.  Sadly, today in age, there are too many children that are exposed to the irreverence of the Novus Ordo mass, and that it is very difficult to educate them on how to discern the good from the bad.
Good Catholics just avoid that all together and go to the Misa Tradicional en Latin.

Examples, well, there is a whole plethora of them. In the NO (Jeans, shorts, levis, mini skirts, big logos on clothing, cleavage, no veils, no respect for the Blessed sacrament.)
And that's only for starters. (you know the welcoming part on the NO mass). As far as the Liturgy, Communion, holding hands, raising hands, guitars playing and all that, well that's another part of the "Crisis". But the main part of the "Crisis" is what is behind the scenes: DOCTRINE.
That has changed. Some will argue it's only a matter of interpretation. Call it what you will. But 50+ years ago, there was no issue. Now there is.
Before you could go to your parish priest to ask for advice on a moral issue. Now (If one is morally responisble) you have to seek at least a second opinion. Because, the interpretation of Doctrine is now subject to personal interpretation or feelings or on a case-by-case basis.
Whereas you go to a Traditional priest. He will answer you with a cut and dry answer. He cuts out all of the bull. And gives you Truth.
The TLM has developed naturally throughout the history of the Church. I cannot say the same thing for the Novus Ordo.
In a very simplistic way you can say that the Mass mirrors doctrine.
Now a days, you don't see priests/nuns wearing the correct religious attire. In fact, you cannot distinguish them from layfolk. Unless you know them personally.


That Calicatholic, is what we mean about the Crisis.

In The TLM in Mexico (FSSPX),  and when we have traveled to the USA to the FSSPX, there have been zero abuses, zero irreverence.

Make no mistake. the FSSPX is part of the Catholic Church. It is a bastion of tradition.     
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Jan 21 Bp Williamson column - by a83192 - 01-21-2012, 10:38 AM
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