WHO do you blame more for the post-Vatican II issues - John XXIII or Paul VI?
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Paul VI he had the Mass changed. There have been lots of councils but no big changes to the perspective of the laity, but changing the Mass is what has been the biggest factor in the destruction of the Church. As I see it John XXIII was just a modernist dufuss with his head in the clouds always seeing the glass half full and ignoring the warnings about holding a council. Actually Pius XII (actually an intelligent man) was going to hold a council but was warned against it so he didn't. All the major damage happened under Paul VI. Then again John XXIII "opened the windows" so I think its safe to say they both stunk.
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Re: WHO do you blame more for the post-Vatican II issues - John XXIII or Paul VI? - by The Dying Flutchman - 01-31-2012, 08:14 PM



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