Errors of Russia
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(02-15-2012, 09:30 AM)PeterII Wrote:
Crusading Philo Wrote:Don't libertarians argue that the vast majority of people ought to be wage-slaves? On the question of duties and rights, we also have a duty to give to the poor. Does that mean that the poor have a right to my money? Someone having a duty to do something does not imply that I have some sort of "right" inhering in my nature that obligates him to fulfill that duty.

Choosing to work for a wage does not make one a slave.  In a free market society, people have the freedom to choose how to earn a living.  There is natural inequality, but equal opportunity. There is no natural law "duty" to give to the poor, which is an act of charity and mercy.   

Crusading Philologist Wrote:At any rate, I'm not sure why consent is all that important in questions of distributing goods. The state has a right and obligation to oversee this distribution, and this entails the authority to create laws directed toward the common good, which are of course not based on consent. So, as long as the state is acting in order to promote the common good, I'm not sure that consent is especially important.

The State has rights but individuals don't?  There's Hobbes Leviathan for you.  What's to stop the overlords from imprisoning or killing wealthy people and distributing their property for the "common good"?

Did you miss the part where the state, even a corrupted state, is an agent of God?
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Errors of Russia - by onosurf - 02-14-2012, 09:28 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 09:55 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Walty - 02-14-2012, 10:53 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 10:56 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 10:59 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 11:33 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 11:35 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Walty - 02-14-2012, 11:37 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 11:37 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 11:38 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 11:39 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 11:40 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 11:42 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 11:44 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 11:45 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 11:48 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 11:52 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 11:55 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Walty - 02-14-2012, 11:58 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 12:01 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 12:01 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 12:18 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 12:21 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Parmandur - 02-14-2012, 12:23 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 12:25 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Parmandur - 02-14-2012, 12:26 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 12:28 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 12:34 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Crusading Philologist - 02-14-2012, 12:34 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 12:47 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 12:50 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 12:51 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 12:54 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Traditional Guy - 02-14-2012, 12:56 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Crusading Philologist - 02-14-2012, 01:00 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 01:52 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Old Salt - 02-14-2012, 02:07 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Crusading Philologist - 02-14-2012, 02:19 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Old Salt - 02-14-2012, 02:25 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 02:36 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Old Salt - 02-14-2012, 02:37 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Adam Wayne - 02-14-2012, 02:45 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Old Salt - 02-14-2012, 02:46 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Adam Wayne - 02-14-2012, 02:58 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-14-2012, 02:59 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Crusading Philologist - 02-14-2012, 03:03 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Adam Wayne - 02-14-2012, 04:15 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by GottmitunsAlex - 02-14-2012, 04:16 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Old Salt - 02-14-2012, 04:22 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 04:26 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Parmandur - 02-14-2012, 06:02 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by mikemac - 02-14-2012, 09:58 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 10:02 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by mikemac - 02-14-2012, 10:14 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by DrBombay - 02-14-2012, 10:15 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Vetus Ordo - 02-14-2012, 10:17 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by mikemac - 02-14-2012, 10:21 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-15-2012, 08:59 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-15-2012, 09:30 AM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Parmandur - 02-15-2012, 03:11 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Crusading Philologist - 02-15-2012, 03:57 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by PeterII - 02-15-2012, 05:46 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Parmandur - 02-15-2012, 05:48 PM
Re: Errors of Russia - by Crusading Philologist - 02-15-2012, 05:58 PM



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