Father Joseph Ratzinger
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(06-23-2012, 05:37 PM)JayneK Wrote:
(06-23-2012, 05:25 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote:
(06-23-2012, 05:21 PM)JayneK Wrote:
(06-23-2012, 05:08 PM)Walty Wrote: But he always supports the concept of the new rite.  I do not think he would have fought for the TLM (which was the OP's question) but perhaps merely used it as a template to patch up the Novus Ordo.  This shows an interest in the TLM but only insofar as it can be used by what he sees as the truly important liturgy of our time, the new rite.

I agree that he does not object to a new rite in principle, but he sure doesn't like the one we ended up with.  I get the impression he would like to scrap it and start over.  I'm not sure if this would have been enough on its own to get him to fight for the TLM, but I don't see it as out of the question.

In reality, he had both his liturgical concerns and his pastoral concerns for the needs of traditional Catholics so he had two reasons to fight for it.

But, here, again, we have the age-old traddy/neo-Catholic problem:
Something went awry in the 1960s and 1970s.  How do we fix it?  Do we work with what we have, or scrap it and go back to tradition?

The trad says we scrap it and go back to tradition.

The neo-Catholic says it can be salvaged and just done better.  We haven't just implemented it right.

One is wrong.

I am not at all sure that the Pope thinks the NO can be salvaged.  He seems to think it is pretty fundamentally flawed.  What he seems to think is salvageable is Sacrosanctum Concilium the conciliar document on liturgy.  He is not rejecting its principles of liturgical renewal.  

He's been Pope for over seven years.  Pope John XXIII called a council.  Pope Paul VI ushered in the bastard rite. 

What has B16 done?  Approved of the NeocatWay.

He hasn't touched the liturgy (and no, the new translation isn't his - it's from 2002).  If he sees ANYTHING wrong with the status quo, he's taking his time with it. 

Time, I presume, he doesn't have, if he really does think the NO is flawed. 

But, I'll keep letting him build the Church back "brick by brick" as the "Pope of Christian Unity".  Eye-roll
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Father Joseph Ratzinger - by salus - 06-23-2012, 03:29 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Tim - 06-23-2012, 04:27 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 04:35 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Walty - 06-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 05:21 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by CollegeCatholic - 06-23-2012, 05:25 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Walty - 06-23-2012, 05:31 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by salus - 06-23-2012, 05:35 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 05:37 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Walty - 06-23-2012, 05:37 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 05:44 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Walty - 06-23-2012, 05:49 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 05:53 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Walty - 06-23-2012, 05:56 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 06:03 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by SCG - 06-23-2012, 06:16 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 06:22 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by maldon - 06-23-2012, 09:30 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Vetus Ordo - 06-23-2012, 09:35 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Vetus Ordo - 06-23-2012, 09:54 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Vetus Ordo - 06-23-2012, 10:05 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Vetus Ordo - 06-23-2012, 10:10 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by JayneK - 06-23-2012, 10:12 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by CollegeCatholic - 06-23-2012, 10:21 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by m.PR - 06-23-2012, 11:58 PM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by maldon - 06-24-2012, 12:41 AM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by INPEFESS - 06-24-2012, 01:12 AM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Walty - 06-24-2012, 02:55 AM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by Crusader_Philly - 06-24-2012, 04:30 AM
Re: Father Joseph Ratzinger - by CollegeCatholic - 06-24-2012, 05:07 AM



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