JFK, abortion, and the usual suspects
(02-15-2013, 10:43 PM)Burdensome1 Wrote:
Quote:I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the President -- should he be Catholic -- how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.

I want a Chief Executive whose public acts are responsible to all and obligated to none, who can attend any ceremony, service, or dinner his office may appropriately require of him to fulfill; and whose fulfillment of his Presidential office is not limited or conditioned by any religious oath, ritual, or obligation.

I ask you tonight to follow in that tradition -- to judge me on the basis of 14 years in the Congress, on my declared stands against an Ambassador to the Vatican, against unconstitutional aid to parochial schools, and against any boycott of the public schools -- which I attended myself. And instead of doing this, do not judge me on the basis of these pamphlets and publications we all have seen that carefully select quotations out of context from the statements of Catholic church leaders, usually in other countries, frequently in other centuries, and rarely relevant to any situation here. And always omitting, of course, the statement of the American Bishops in 1948 which strongly endorsed Church-State separation, and which more nearly reflects the views of almost every American Catholic.

I do not speak for my church on public matters; and the church does not speak for me. Whatever issue may come before me as President, if I should be elected, on birth control, divorce, censorship, gambling or any other subject, I will make my decision in accordance with these views -- in accordance with what my conscience tells me to be in the national interest, and without regard to outside religious pressure or dictates. And no power or threat of punishment could cause me to decide otherwise.   -John F. Kennedy

Address to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association

By denying that the Church's social teaching had any place in the civil domain, JFK provides a textbook perfect definition of the heresy of Americanism.  Condemned by Leo XIII, he could have been excommunicated for it. 

Huh.  I wrote a ten page paper on Testem Benevolentiae a couple years ago and don't recall any condemnation of the idea that the Church's social teaching has no place in society.  I do however recall five errors which the pope denounces: Rejection of external guidance in the spiritual life; natural virtues considered more advantageous for man than spiritual virtues; active virtues preferred over passive virtues; religious vows are not appropriate for the modern age and; a new method of evangelizing non-Catholics should be adopted, rejecting past methods. 

I also recall that he allowed that certain cultural adaptions can be made, according to the times and places in which the Church is operating. 

I'm not saying Pope Leo didn't condemn the idea that the Church's social teaching has no place in society. I'm just not sure he taught it in Testem Benevolentiae.  But then, I've slept a few times since I wrote that paper.

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Re: JFK, abortion, and the usual suspects - by DrBombay - 02-15-2013, 11:15 PM

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