Catholics and homosexuality
(03-10-2013, 08:00 AM)ImpyTerwilliger Wrote: m.PR, on this logic, many people should not be posting on Fisheaters, because it is an occasion of the sin of spiritual pride, allowing them to get together like a pack of hyenas to attack "other" sinners (but with an important difference -- they are by no means encouraging each other to stop).  

False analogy. While spending a lot of time in Fisheaters can be spiritually detrimental, traditionalism, unlike sodomy, is not a sin. For starters.


(03-10-2013, 08:12 AM)JayneK Wrote: While Burdensome may deny making assumptions about Courage and its meetings, there have been repeated comments throughout this thread about the meetings being some form of group therapy and that the meetings being an occasion of sin for its participants.  These were assumptions with no apparent factual basis.

Sure. But that's not the core of the argument, which is that the structure of the thing is bad because it helps people with same-sex attraction identify and spend time with and share their struggles with other people with same-sex attraction, of the same sex.

It seems a very strong argument, at least for those of us who believe there are some situations that are intrinsically occasions of sin.
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Catholics and homosexuality - by Benno - 03-07-2013, 07:27 AM
Re: Catholics and homosexuality - by Benno - 03-07-2013, 08:22 AM
Re: Catholics and homosexuality - by Tim - 03-07-2013, 08:43 AM
Re: Catholics and homosexuality - by VoxClamantis - 03-07-2013, 09:29 AM
Re: Catholics and homosexuality - by Burdensome1 - 03-07-2013, 11:14 AM
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Re: Catholics and homosexuality - by Montgisard - 03-07-2013, 11:48 AM
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Re: Catholics and homosexuality - by Tim - 03-07-2013, 01:11 PM
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