Catholics and homosexuality
(03-10-2013, 01:15 AM)JayneK Wrote: It is quite possible that this thread is scandalizing people. It does have the potential to lead people to sin.  I went through a period in my life in which I was a gay rights activist and a major factor leading to me sinning that way was reacting to Catholics who lacked compassion and understanding.  I eventually came to see that this was a problem with Catholics and not Church teaching itself and I repented of my sin.

The way that we present Church teaching matters.  Some in this thread are going beyond actual Church teaching, mixing in their own opinions and creating a mess that has a very good chance of driving people away
from the Church, as similar messes almost did to me.  There is nothing in Church teaching that says it is wrong to attend Courage meetings. There is nothing that says there is a problem with using the term "SSA".  On the contrary using the term is a good way to distinguish between homosexual actions which are sins and homosexual attraction which is disordered but not a sin.  Using language which helps to make Church teaching more clear is a good thing.

As a Catholic, who needs to outline morals for others, I think SSA is a "good" term to differentiate the attraction from the sin. One may be attracted to same sex, but acting on it or accepting that sin as a lifestyle means they are a homosexual. Simple, easy to understand.

And yes of course heterosexuals sin when they engage in sinful acts outside of marriage. So sin is levied equally to both SSA and straight people. Probably WORSE for straights as we (men especially) are bombarded with over sexualized messages and occasion of sin almost every minute of the day.

Now even in the secular media, they muddy the waters as what makes a person homosexual. They don't want take a position that its a learned behavior, genetic, mental illness (it was labeled as such until the 70s) or a choice. Curiously, they do take great lengths to distance themselves from all the sexual based crimes that are committed.
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Catholics and homosexuality - by Benno - 03-07-2013, 07:27 AM
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