What species orientation are you?
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(08-03-2013, 03:54 PM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: Your problem is that you're confusing biological orientation in terms of natural law with a psychological orientation, many varieties of which do exist, including that of eating glass:

Biological and ontological orientation. Which is what I was always talking about. I was never talking about a subjective mental state. But nor are people who claim to have a homosexual orientation. They never just mean "Oh my psychological mental state says I am unnaturally attracted to the same sex". That's not what they mean, and it's definitely not what the liberals want you to think when you see the phrase 'homosexual orientation'. This is the whole point.

If 'homosexual orientation' = psychological perversion then it's okay to use the phrase.

Quote:Some people can be oriented toward doing evil.

They are not oriented towards it so much as they have a perverted will or darkened intellect. We all seek the good (in a general sense), and depending on our will and intellect we do things that are evil thinking them to be good for us somehow. Just because people do evil things and behave in evil ways it doesn't make them oriented towards evil.

It's like saying that every human creature is oriented towards hell. Well, no they aren't. We're all oriented towards Heaven, it's our lifes telos. Just because some people end up in Hell and do things that make them go there doesn't make it any less truthful that we were all made for God by God to spend eternity with Him in Heaven.

Quote:That doesn't make their behavior "on par" with doing good

But that's the whole point about this modern phrase 'sexual orientation'. It places everything on equal footing.

"Hey Tim whats your sexual orientation?"
"I'm heterosexual what about yourself Sarah?"
"Oh, I'm homosexual and my wife is bisexual with a preference for women which is why we're married!"
"Awesome!"

All the things we say about homosexuality apply equally to pedophilia, correct? Perversion, immoral, some people have that attraction. So let me ask you how you'd feel if the next time you filled in a questionnaire this came up:

What is your sexual orientation?
a) Heterosexual
b) Bisexual
c) Homosexual
d) Pedosexual

Do you feel okay with this? Why or why not? Would the world feel okay with this? NO. Why? Because they know what it means. It means that finding children sexually enticing is equal to heterosexuality. It means it's just another choice amongst a few others. This is why words are so important.

Quote:And yeah, human behavior is fluid. That's what makes people fascinating.

Vox, are you saying that it's interesting that people sin or that we have horrible reminders in all of us of original sin?
If sexuality is fluid then natural law is wrong and so is Catholic teaching on sexual ethics and morality.
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What species orientation are you? - by Basilios - 08-03-2013, 03:08 AM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by frater - 08-03-2013, 08:32 AM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by frater - 08-03-2013, 09:41 AM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by Tim - 08-03-2013, 10:02 AM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by frater - 08-03-2013, 10:46 AM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by Whitey - 08-03-2013, 02:58 PM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by Basilios - 08-03-2013, 04:16 PM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by JayneK - 08-04-2013, 09:51 AM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by JayneK - 08-04-2013, 08:16 PM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by JayneK - 08-04-2013, 10:08 PM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by JayneK - 08-05-2013, 09:37 AM
Re: What species orientation are you? - by JayneK - 08-05-2013, 01:38 PM



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