FSSP or ICKSP
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(12-24-2013, 04:45 PM)Geremia Wrote:
(12-22-2013, 07:05 PM)RedCaves Wrote:
(12-22-2013, 06:20 PM)Geremia Wrote:
(12-07-2013, 06:48 PM)RedCaves Wrote:
(12-07-2013, 06:35 PM)PolishTrad Wrote: Is it true that ICKSP priests are allowed to use pre-1962 missals?

Yes, it's true.
I know they say some prayers for the pope from the '58 Missal, but they can say the entire mass from a pre-'62 Missal?

From what I've been told, yes, they can. It's one of their special perks they are allowed to have.
Here's what my ICRSS oblate candidate friend wrote me about this:
Quote:Canon [the ICRSS priest] only uses the pre-62 missal for feasts that are missing in the 62 missal. Under the rubrics of the 1962 Missal, customs are allowed. The customs that the Institute have and get permission for by the Commission Ecclesia Dei are basically rubrics that were abolished in the 1962 reform. The Institute used to celebrate Holy Week with the 1945 Missal (which is the same as the 1570 Missal) until Summorum Pontificum. When Summorum Pontificum came out, the Institute decided to do the 1955 Holy Week Rites with some adaptations from pre-55.

So, technically the Institute has customs that are pre-62 rubrics and they use the Missal of 62 and sometimes an older version for particular feasts. They do not however have official permission to use the 1570 Missal. I heard that the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei is going over a proposition from Una Voce to let the FSSP and ICKSP use the pre-55 Holy Week Rites. They'll have the option to use either the 62 or the 55. But in technicality, for just the Missal, Summorum Pontificum is crystal clear about using only the 1962 Missal. To use an earlier version, you would need permission from the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei. Given that the Institute knows so many Cardinals in the curia, including the ones that celebrate Latin Mass regularly, Burke, Rode, Bagnasco, Piacenza, Rajinth, Canizares, Hoyos, Brandmueller, Pell, etc., and have permission to retain customs that are pre-62 rubrics, I wouldn't be surprised if they have permission to use pre-62 missals and they're just not advertising it to anybody. That's possible.

I talked to my source and while he did concur that the ICKSP may use the pre-1962 missal, he told me that written proof of the "special permission" may be found on the ICKSP's constitution.
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Messages In This Thread
FSSP or ICKSP - by Hypokeimenon - 12-07-2013, 12:31 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Cetil - 12-07-2013, 07:29 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by moon1234 - 12-07-2013, 07:45 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by RedCaves - 12-07-2013, 08:49 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Roger Buck - 12-07-2013, 12:08 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by RedCaves - 12-07-2013, 12:42 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by AntoniusMaximus - 12-07-2013, 02:37 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by trident59 - 12-07-2013, 04:10 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Hakimaki - 12-07-2013, 05:57 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by PolishTrad - 12-07-2013, 06:35 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by RedCaves - 12-07-2013, 06:48 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by VoxClamantis - 12-07-2013, 06:49 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by PolishTrad - 12-07-2013, 07:53 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by RedCaves - 12-07-2013, 08:50 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by JacafamalaRedux - 12-07-2013, 10:37 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Chestertonian - 12-08-2013, 01:01 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Prie dieu - 12-08-2013, 01:15 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Farmer88 - 12-08-2013, 11:11 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by SpiderDweeb - 12-08-2013, 11:17 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by vtcatholic - 12-08-2013, 02:07 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by DeoGratias72 - 12-09-2013, 01:47 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Chestertonian - 12-09-2013, 01:55 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Unum Sint - 12-09-2013, 02:08 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by mamalove - 12-09-2013, 10:33 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Roger Buck - 12-11-2013, 07:03 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Roger Buck - 12-12-2013, 07:13 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Chestertonian - 12-12-2013, 10:41 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Clare Brigid - 12-12-2013, 10:59 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Hypokeimenon - 12-12-2013, 12:00 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by CounterRevolutionary - 12-12-2013, 12:05 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by AntoniusMaximus - 12-12-2013, 10:02 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by mamalove - 12-12-2013, 10:29 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by AntoniusMaximus - 12-13-2013, 12:31 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Hypokeimenon - 12-20-2013, 10:34 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Chestertonian - 12-21-2013, 12:28 AM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Geremia - 12-22-2013, 06:20 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by RedCaves - 12-22-2013, 07:05 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Clare Brigid - 12-22-2013, 07:32 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by dymphnaw - 12-23-2013, 04:48 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Chestertonian - 12-23-2013, 05:14 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by RedCaves - 12-23-2013, 10:38 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by DeoGratias72 - 12-23-2013, 11:17 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Geremia - 12-24-2013, 04:45 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by Miriam_M - 12-25-2013, 04:03 PM
Re: FSSP or ICKSP - by RedCaves - 12-25-2013, 04:18 PM



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