Infallibility of the Faith
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(06-24-2014, 12:33 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote:
(06-24-2014, 12:00 AM)Beardly Wrote: Your conception of the cosmos as it relates to God is peculiar. First, God does not "alter the flow of the universe" by any traditional account. To change something he had previously created would require God himself to change, which is impossible. Rather, one would say that the universe alters its flow around God. Christ, for instance, did not somehow change the divine essence by becoming man. He changed the essence of man. Miracles are in principle no different.


Miracles are not the "interference" but rather part of the plan, but outside of the normal course of what would naturally happen. Just because naturally something would not happen does not mean that God causing something beyond this (like the temporary suspension of the effect of a natural process) is changing his mind. Rather, He knew and planned to do this. It only appears to us to be God stepping in and changing things. For God it was always planned this way. He never changed His mind at all, just did what he had planned.

Please excuse my simple-minded ignorance, but this is where I start to get confused with predestination or predetermination.  ??? ??? 

Also, Melkite used in one of his posts the observation that there are no known instances of a "miraculous" healing of an amputated limb.  Is this true?  And, if so, well....I'm not quite sure what to make of that.  So, once again... ???


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Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-22-2014, 10:20 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-22-2014, 10:41 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-22-2014, 11:01 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by medievalman86 - 06-22-2014, 08:50 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by seanipie - 06-22-2014, 09:39 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 12:48 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 08:04 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by PolishTrad - 06-23-2014, 08:10 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 10:14 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 10:19 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 10:20 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 10:33 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 10:59 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 11:03 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 11:06 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 11:09 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 11:11 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Clare Brigid - 06-23-2014, 11:12 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 11:17 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 11:18 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 11:20 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 11:24 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 11:29 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 11:35 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 11:36 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 11:45 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 12:03 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 12:11 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 12:13 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 12:14 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 12:20 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 12:22 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Clare Brigid - 06-23-2014, 12:24 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 12:27 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 12:31 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 12:34 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 12:35 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 12:40 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 01:03 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 01:22 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 01:50 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 01:57 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 02:07 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 02:10 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 03:24 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 03:26 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 03:44 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 03:54 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Copeland - 06-23-2014, 03:56 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 04:26 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 04:31 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 04:40 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Qoheleth - 06-23-2014, 08:52 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Melkite - 06-23-2014, 09:46 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Beardly - 06-24-2014, 12:00 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Clare Brigid - 06-24-2014, 09:09 AM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by J Michael - 06-24-2014, 12:51 PM
Re: Infallibility of the Faith - by Beardly - 06-24-2014, 03:57 PM



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