Re: Masons, Knights of Columbus and Vatican II
(09-24-2014, 03:02 AM)Credidi Propter Wrote:
(09-24-2014, 02:41 AM)Poche Wrote:
(09-24-2014, 02:31 AM)Credidi Propter Wrote: When asked in 1983 if Catholics could be Freemasons, Pope Emeritus Benedict wrote “… the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.” This sounds clear enough, and I'm too young to remember 1983.  Even so, I have heard hundreds and hundreds of sermons from Catholic pulpits, I have attended more theology/apologetics lectures and catechesis sessions than I can count.  I have NOT ONCE heard Freemasonry or the Church's position on it mentioned by anyone I know in person.  This is from everyone- priest, seminarian, religious, theologian, lay catechist- everyone.  No matter how orthodox or reverent or traditional or anything they may be, everyone treats it as a non-issue.  No one will be cleaning up their act until they are told they need to.
It's not an issue for me unless someone asks or we are talking about prohibited groups. they fall under the category of evil gangs.

Many people join these groups without even considering what the Church says about it.  It isn't a matter of morality to them.  To them, it's just a place for networking and brotherhood, and there's nothing wrong with either of those things.  It is also teaches religious indifferentism- that it doesn't really matter what you believe as long as you believe in God.  It's everywhere in the culture (even no belief in God is OK there), and many are fed the heresy of religious indifferentism at church as well, so they don't even think about it.  Well, they need to think about it, because Our Lord said " I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me," and it is essential that those God has called to preach and to teach the faithful make sure they know it.
The Knights of Columbus is still a Catholic organization. As a body they support the pope and the bishops in communioni with him. There may be individuals who may not be what they should be but you find that everywhere. You do not like to be judged based the craziest worst person in your community that can be found. Please don't do that with the Knights of Columbus.   

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Re: Masons, Knights of Columbus and Vatican II - by Poche - 09-25-2014, 01:30 AM

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