Synod on the Family
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(10-05-2014, 03:31 PM)1seeker Wrote:
(10-05-2014, 01:50 PM)Klemens Wrote: All we can do is pray for the sanity of those participating in the Synod. Everything rests in our Lord's hands. Even scandalous canonisations have been willed by our Lord. However, being the realpolitik person that I am, I cannot help but think that these modernist developments have resulted from the inherent flaw of centralisation within the Latin Church, as exemplified by the post-Conciliar revolution. I frequently find myself believing in the superiority of Orthodox ecclesiology precisely because of its de-centralised structure. Other factors contribute to this „Byzantofilia", yet this doubt about the necessity of Roman supremacy always provides a seemingly rational and objective pull toward the East. I hope that these comments are not taken with offence, as I know that many on this forum would strongly object to such questions.

The decentralizations of the East did not prevent them from adopting the heresies of remarriage and abortion/contraception. In fact as someone has already noted, the East has already adopted what Kasper is only now starting to try to push onto the West. "Oikonomia" for Marriage is a roman liberalism, but a greek "orthodoxy".

Abortion and contraception might get a nod and a wink from some Orthodox priests and hierarchs but neither were historically considered acceptable and most traditional/ conservative Orthodox would not be supportive of either. As far as divorce and remarriage goes, the  position of the Orthodox is justified based on their own reading of scripture and tradition but some of the complete laxity and nonchalance about the issue is actually more a modern phenomenon.

Orthodoxy, for the most part,has kept to traditions and customs long since abandoned by the West and all in the midst of horrific Muslim and communist persecution and all without the papacy.  Is the divorce/remarriage thing any better just because it's called an "annulment" and justified through legalistic verbiage in the Roman Catholic Church?

The claims of the East, especially in light of the collapse of The Roman Catholic Church in the mid 20th century even with the papacy, are compelling and will not go away.  For some of us the triumphalist apologetics of Roman Catholics so popular in the pre conciliar era are not convincing in light of the Catholic about face of Vatican 2. 
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Synod on the Family - by PolishTrad - 10-03-2014, 09:23 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-03-2014, 12:20 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by CounterRevolutionary - 10-03-2014, 01:28 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-03-2014, 02:30 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by PrairieMom - 10-04-2014, 12:46 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-05-2014, 10:40 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Heorot - 10-05-2014, 11:43 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by PolishTrad - 10-05-2014, 01:40 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Klemens - 10-05-2014, 01:50 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Heorot - 10-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 02:19 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-05-2014, 02:32 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-05-2014, 02:33 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 02:49 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-05-2014, 02:57 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by formerbuddhist - 10-05-2014, 03:10 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 03:28 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-05-2014, 03:31 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 03:45 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by formerbuddhist - 10-05-2014, 03:58 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 04:06 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by formerbuddhist - 10-05-2014, 04:09 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 04:31 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Gabriel Serafin - 10-05-2014, 04:38 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-05-2014, 04:44 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 05:06 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-05-2014, 05:21 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 05:32 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Klemens - 10-05-2014, 06:01 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Klemens - 10-05-2014, 06:10 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-05-2014, 07:24 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 07:47 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by formerbuddhist - 10-05-2014, 07:48 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-05-2014, 08:06 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 10:38 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-05-2014, 11:06 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-05-2014, 11:28 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-06-2014, 07:59 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-06-2014, 10:49 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-06-2014, 11:56 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-06-2014, 01:21 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-06-2014, 02:19 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-06-2014, 02:58 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-06-2014, 03:55 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-06-2014, 04:35 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-06-2014, 05:13 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-06-2014, 10:36 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-06-2014, 10:57 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-06-2014, 11:24 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-06-2014, 11:46 PM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-07-2014, 12:17 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Neopelagianus - 10-07-2014, 06:46 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by CounterRevolutionary - 10-07-2014, 07:19 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by CounterRevolutionary - 10-07-2014, 07:25 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by SCG - 10-07-2014, 08:34 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-07-2014, 09:28 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-07-2014, 10:08 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-07-2014, 10:26 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by 1seeker - 10-07-2014, 10:56 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Renatus Frater - 10-07-2014, 11:06 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by Silouan - 10-07-2014, 11:48 AM
Re: Synod on the Family - by CounterRevolutionary - 10-07-2014, 12:54 PM



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