Souls concerning abortion
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(08-06-2015, 05:45 PM)Papist Wrote:
(08-06-2015, 03:07 PM)SaintSebastian Wrote:
(08-06-2015, 02:15 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: Unfortunately, Traditionally, there are only two possibilities, hell and limbus puerorum . I personally believe in limbo, probably because a) I believe in a merciful God, and b) I lost a brother to a still birth.

Those are the only two possibilities if the child dies in original sin, but dying in original sin is not the only possibility.  In reply to the objection that the sin of Adam reaches farther than the grace of Christ, since original sin can reach into the womb but baptism can't, St. Thomas replied:

"Children while in the mother's womb have not yet come forth into the world to live among other men. Consequently they cannot be subject to the action of man, so as to receive the sacrament, at the hands of man, unto salvation. They can, however, be subject to the action of God, in Whose sight they live, so as, by a kind of privilege, to receive the grace of sanctification; as was the case with those who were sanctified in the womb."
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/4068.htm#article11
I agree with St. Thomas.

Sorry, but if the Angelic Doctor (and remember, he was wrong on the Immaculate Conception) and Msgr McCarthy are right, you run into the same problem as with the modernist bullcrap that aborted or stillborn babies who die without Baptism go to Heaven. If that's the case, do the little ones a favour and abort them before they can be born and die without the Sacrament and go to limbo if they die before the age of reason, or receive it and then die after the age of reason in a state of mortal sin! At least if they're aborted in the womb they are guaranteed Heaven in either case, which is more than is true of any of us!
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Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-06-2015, 11:51 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Steven - 08-06-2015, 12:39 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-06-2015, 02:15 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by dcmaccabees - 08-06-2015, 03:04 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by SaintSebastian - 08-06-2015, 03:07 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by SaintSebastian - 08-06-2015, 03:14 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by dcmaccabees - 08-06-2015, 03:31 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-06-2015, 04:10 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Papist - 08-06-2015, 05:45 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Renatus Frater - 08-06-2015, 06:50 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-06-2015, 09:03 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Acolyte - 08-06-2015, 09:05 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Renatus Frater - 08-06-2015, 09:10 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by richgr - 08-06-2015, 09:15 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-06-2015, 09:22 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Melkite - 08-07-2015, 08:09 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-07-2015, 04:26 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-07-2015, 05:12 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-07-2015, 05:38 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Papist - 08-07-2015, 05:39 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Papist - 08-07-2015, 05:40 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-07-2015, 06:13 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Cyriacus - 08-07-2015, 06:20 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Acolyte - 08-07-2015, 08:30 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-08-2015, 03:39 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by formerbuddhist - 08-08-2015, 08:10 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-08-2015, 08:33 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by formerbuddhist - 08-08-2015, 09:30 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by dcmaccabees - 08-08-2015, 11:21 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-08-2015, 12:44 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-09-2015, 01:16 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-09-2015, 10:06 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-09-2015, 10:19 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-09-2015, 10:35 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-10-2015, 11:01 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-10-2015, 11:36 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by formerbuddhist - 08-10-2015, 06:09 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-10-2015, 06:18 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-11-2015, 03:42 AM



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