Islamization of Europe a good thing

'Islamization of Europe a good thing'

Rabbi Baruch Efrati believes Jews should 'rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.' He praises Islam for promoting modesty, respect for God

Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 11.11.12, 13:52 / Israel Jewish Scene

As concerns grow over the increasing number of Muslims in Europe, it appears not everyone is bothered by the issue, including an Israeli rabbi who even welcomes the phenomenon.

Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, believes that the Islamization of Europe is actually a good thing.

"With the help of God, the gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt," he explained.

Rabbi Efrati was asked to discuss the issue by an oriental studies student, who inquired on Judaism's stand toward the process Europe has been going through in recent years.

Following the election of a hijab-wearing Muslim woman as the mayor of the Bosnian city of Visoko for the first time in continent's history, the student asked the rabbi on the Kipa website: "How do we fight the Islamization of Europe and return it to the hands of Christians and moderates?"

Efrati wrote in response that the Islamization of Europe was better than a Christian Europe for ethical and theological reasons – as a punishment against Christians for persecuting the Jews and the fact that Christianity, as opposed to Islam, is considered "idolatry" from a halachic point of view.

Vox Wrote:I talk about all this sort of thing here, on the FE site:

"Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years were in exile there," the rabbi explained as the ethical reason for favoring Muslims, quoting shocking descriptions from the Rishonim literature (written by leading rabbis who lived during the 11th to 15th centuries) about pogroms and mass murders committed by Christians against Jews.

"We will never forgive Europe's Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly… Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity…

"A now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won't be able to atone for."

'Islam a relatively honest religion'

The theological reason, according to Rabbi Efrati, is that Christianity – which he sees as idolatry – has a tendency to "destroy normal life and abstain from it on the one hand, while losing modesty on the other hand," as it "ranges between radical monasticism to radical Western licentiousness."

Islam, the rabbi added, is "a religion which misjudges its prophets but is relatively honest. It educates a bit more for a stable life of marriage and creation, where there is certain modesty and respect for God."

Vox Wrote:
Well now, how did Christianity go from what it was in the Middle Ages to what it almost isn't in the present secular era? How did things like homosexual "marriage" become accepted? How did we get such a pornified culture? Does Hollywood have anything to do with how European and European-derived  people run their lives and with how they think and perceive the world? How did the human element of the Church get so soft and mushy all of a sudden? I mean, is this guy really blaming Christianity for the present secular state of our culture, a place in which Catholicism is attacked all over the place, where Christians can't even put up creches without calling in teams of lawyers?

And what is so frustrating about all this is exactly what we see from this rabbi guy: our cultures are attacked and weakened, and when their legs are broken, we're mocked for being disabled. This rabbi is talking about weak Christianity when the fact is that the Faith was weakened from without. Then there's this woman, Ingrid Lomfors, educated at Jerusalem's Hebrew University, trained at the Hebrew College in Boston, and who's the general secretary of the Jewish Synagogue in Stockholm, Sweden, who is pushing for Muslim immigration into Sweden and uses, as one of her big talking points, the idea that "There is no native Swedish culture" anyway.

Mona Sahlin (also Jewish, by the way) had this to say in a speech to a Turkish youth organization:

Mona Sahlin Wrote:"I think that's what makes many Swedes jealous of immigrant groups. You have a culture, an ientity, a history, something that brings you closer together. And what do we have? We have Midsummer's Eve and such silly things."

It's insane. And if Sweden were to embrace her culture, this woman would freak OUT. Imagine if Sweden went trad Catholic, and instead of "Midsummer's Eve," the Swedes celebrated St. John's Eve. And all the other Catholic feasts. And embraced the traditional liturgical and sacramental rites and traditional devotions. She'd plotz.

She also went on in this manner:

Efrati ruled, therefore, that "even if we are in a major war with the region's Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity."

He added, however, that Jews must pray that the Islamization of most of Europe will not harm the people of Israel.

Vox Wrote:Well, of course. Nevermind the Christians, of course. Unlike Catholics and Orthodox, who pray for the Jews, the Jews don't pray for us; they, instead, curse us with their birkat ha-minim. But that's not any matter for discussion in polite society. Nor in the halls of the Vatican when the topic of Jewish-Catholic relations comes up.

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Islamization of Europe a good thing - by VoxClamantis - 11-23-2015, 07:44 AM

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