My Soliloquies on the kinds of torments of unbaptized infants.
(03-16-2017, 11:51 PM)Vox Clamantis Wrote:
(03-16-2017, 11:46 PM)Gregory I Wrote: Well yes because it is constrained by dogmas and the teachings of scripture. But I am not opposed to being wrong, but I also don't see how the fathers and doctors for 800 years after Augustine were all wrong. This is their teaching after all. Now, you admit they can be in error on this point for so long, but then who is to say St. Thomas did not err on this point? You point to the unanimity of the scholastics after Aquinas, I point to the Latin Fathers after Augustine.

And I pointed out St. Gregory of Nanzianzus, who preceded St. Augustine. St. Augustine started the idea you're pushing here. Before him, what the Scholastics taught was accepted. And that is what the Church accepts and teaches.

No, it is the opinion of some of the scholastics, the CHURCH teaches unbaptized infants descend to hell to be punished for original sin alone, but that this punishment is unequal to those who die in mortal sin. The CHURCH teaches that they are in the Hell of the damned in a place of guilt and punishment. But it has not yet decided the nature of that punishment. Theologians can disagree.

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Re: My Soliloquies on the kinds of torments of unbaptized infants. - by Gregory I - 03-16-2017, 11:57 PM

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