baptism question
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(01-27-2019, 06:16 PM)Melkite Wrote:
(01-27-2019, 05:40 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: Good point. I hope MM sees this and gives his opinion. I assume from the 'she' that it was a Methodist or Episcopalian baptism? If either, she was violating the rules of her Church. I was baptised as a teenager in the Methodist Church and I served countless baptisms in the Episcopal Church, and both Churches' liturgies use Our Lords words verbatim.

Yeah, it was at a UMC church.  Female pastor.  The parents like this church because they had been going to a very progressive, mega-church-like Catholic parish prior to moving to this area.  An inclusive, social justice oriented parish is very important to them.

MM, crap.  My gut told me you were going to tell me that.

So, now my question is, how do I broach this to the parents?  The father was raised in a Baptist missionary family, became mostly agnostic during his early adulthood, and as far as I know, is still basically agnostic, though we never talk about it, so I'm really not sure.  The mother was raised Catholic.  I am godfather to their two eldest children, the oldest three were baptized Catholic and this is baby #4.  The mother has been thinking over the past few years that she does not believe in the real presence in the Eucharist.  Allowance of same-sex marriage is also very important to her and, not as important, prefers that women should be allowed to be ordained.  Beyond that, AFAIK she still believes everything the Catholic Church teaches.  My godchildren are 7 and 5, so I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to be speaking to them directly about the importance of their Catholic baptism and my obligations as their godfather (the younger wouldn't really understand and, while extremely intelligent, I'm not sure how much the elder would understand either).  Also, I'm obviously concerned about the validity of the baptism of the youngest (so I guess EENS is also something they don't believe in, or going UMC would never have been considered).  I know they wouldn't be offended by me bringing it up, but I also don't think they would agree with me, and so probably will do nothing.  Is it more appropriate to wait until their daughter is an adult and bring it up with her directly?

Let’s take step one here and take out that rubbish you have written in your signature.

Then, I’d actually write the parents in the most charitable way possible, explaining to them that having the Sacrament redone in the proper way would be prudent, and explain gently the reason why. An email or a formally written text I think would be sufficient.  Explain to them that you love them and their child, and that you would lay down your life for them.  BUT, you can’t lay down your SOUL for them, because that’s God’s, and doesn’t belong to them.  Then explain to them that in the spirit of obedience and charity that you have to recommend they consider having the child re-baptized.
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Messages In This Thread
baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: baptism question - by jovan66102 - 01-27-2019, 05:09 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 05:33 PM
RE: baptism question - by jovan66102 - 01-27-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 06:16 PM
RE: baptism question - by FultonFan - 01-27-2019, 06:43 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: baptism question - by FultonFan - 01-27-2019, 08:07 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 08:33 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 10:17 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 10:44 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 11:02 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 05:47 PM
RE: baptism question - by jovan66102 - 01-27-2019, 06:02 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 08:16 PM
RE: baptism question - by Dave Parrott - 01-29-2019, 01:40 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-29-2019, 05:32 PM



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