Schism and End Times Scenario
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(09-30-2019, 10:12 AM)josh987654321 Wrote: One can't remain silent in the face of this, so at first it's 'bad' Pope and to pray for him, but then of course, we have other encyclicals throughout history, what right do I have to uphold an encyclical toward Nazi Germany 'Mit Brennender Sorge' for example and then in the same breath resist and fight against other encyclicals such as the one all about so called man made climate change 'Laudato Si'?

If we were living in 1938 we would be telling our German Catholic brothers not to listen to the Third Reich and to listen instead to the Pope and the Encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge, but today in 2019 we are telling them not to listen to the 'Pope' or his Encyclicals.

Catholics living in 1938 and well-formed did not need Mit Brennender Sorge. It was a help because it agreed with the basic principles they ought to have learned as Catholics, but it was just that, a help.

The "right" you have is not to promote or reject encyclicals, but to practice the Catholic Faith whole and entire as it has always been handed down to us. It is not to listen to this Pope or that Pope, but to listen to the Church and Popes, which if you look at the 2000 year history of the Church is a consistent message in the essentials. You have the "right" and duty to ignore what does not help you to do that.

Catholics don't need Mit Brennender Sorge, Pascendi or Laudato Si to be Catholic. They need the Faith. That is learned not by some encyclical or listening to pressers by the Pope, or worrying about this Synod or that one, but by the same Catechisis and Worship that has made Saints for centuries.

When there is confusion, I'll let the people who have the smarts and office stand up and make the corrections to help me focus on what I need to do and learn and not worry about what I cannot change, at least here and now. I think if that were the attitude of the traditional Catholic faithful in general, we'd all be much better able to change the world and restore the Church. It is when we get distracted from our daily duty that we start losing out on the grace of the present moment, needing to solve the world's problems, etc.

I'm not a syncophant of Jordan Peterson, and his Jüngian side is downright wrong, but he's right in one of those 12 rules : Make your bed before you set out to change the world. I think we could apply that to ourselves in our Catholic life very well : Get our own daily duties in order before we worry about the political and satanic machinations of the hierarchy.

God's in charge. We're just a little cog in the machine. It's a great act of humility and thus a wonderfully freeing thing, and full of a massive amount of grace and spiritual growth to just be that cog and not pine after being the crankshaft or engineer.
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Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-12-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Some Guy - 09-12-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-12-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by FultonFan - 09-12-2019, 09:15 PM
Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-12-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by tornpage - 09-26-2019, 11:46 AM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-12-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-12-2019, 10:28 PM
Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-12-2019, 10:44 PM
Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-12-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Markie Boy - 09-13-2019, 07:33 AM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Markie Boy - 09-13-2019, 03:36 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by FultonFan - 09-13-2019, 08:13 AM
Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-13-2019, 04:20 PM
Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-13-2019, 09:31 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by FultonFan - 09-14-2019, 09:24 AM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Markie Boy - 09-13-2019, 10:54 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Markie Boy - 09-13-2019, 11:03 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Florus - 09-13-2019, 11:32 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Markie Boy - 09-13-2019, 11:37 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Markie Boy - 09-14-2019, 07:36 AM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by FultonFan - 09-14-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by FultonFan - 09-14-2019, 10:06 AM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-22-2019, 01:54 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by FultonFan - 09-23-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by jovan66102 - 09-23-2019, 09:08 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by Paul - 09-29-2019, 07:51 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by jovan66102 - 09-29-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by 1Faith - 09-29-2019, 02:32 PM
RE: Schism and End Times Scenario - by MagisterMusicae - 09-30-2019, 04:11 PM



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