Rights and Religious Liberty
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(03-18-2020, 03:29 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: The older model is the norm to be striven for, whether or not the world accepts it or not. Vatican II was a cowardly bending of the knee to the world. You could use your argument to argue that the Church ought to give way on abortion, since it is so entrenched in the world that arguing against it is 'like talking chivalry to a bunch of porn actors'.

You could, but it wouldn't be a very good one. Unlike what we should hold dear (doctrine/dogma), the situation and circumstances matter. Even under monarchies and when the Church had such delegation, other faiths lived under the Kings...it was simply kept at bay. What makes this harder also is that unlike outright heretical Councils V2, at least, affirms that it upholds prior teaching. The right to the exception of coercion in doing XYZ is not the same thing as claiming a right to do XYZ........I'm no lawyer and won't pretend to be but that's as best as I've been able to muster.

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Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 03-18-2020, 02:56 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by jovan66102 - 03-18-2020, 03:03 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 03-18-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by jovan66102 - 03-18-2020, 03:29 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 03-18-2020, 03:50 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 03-19-2020, 10:12 AM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by 19405 - 03-20-2020, 10:15 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by 19405 - 03-18-2020, 03:57 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Melkite - 03-18-2020, 05:20 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 03-20-2020, 10:22 AM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 03-20-2020, 04:47 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by jovan66102 - 03-20-2020, 05:08 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 03-20-2020, 05:31 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by jovan66102 - 03-20-2020, 03:23 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 04-10-2020, 01:32 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Paul - 04-10-2020, 10:00 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 04-10-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 04-10-2020, 05:58 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by piscis - 04-11-2020, 06:41 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by jovan66102 - 04-12-2020, 05:05 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by jovan66102 - 04-12-2020, 06:42 PM
RE: Rights and Religious Liberty - by Adventus - 04-13-2020, 11:37 AM
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