Divine Mercy Chaplet
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(05-07-2020, 08:41 PM)josh987654321 Wrote:
(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: [Image: F072_Mercy.jpg]
A typical Divine Mercy image remindful of a whirling dervish

You know people can and do mock any and all imagery of Christ, His Mother and the Saints? I've read just as many silly comments about all the others too.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: So, Pius XII put the writings of Sr. Faustina on the Index of Prohibited Books. That meant that he considered that their content would lead Catholics astray or in the wrong direction.

Yet we have Pope John Paul II and it was approved by the Church, so if you want to go down that track, then why haven't the gates of hell prevailed if a false private revelation became Church approved and spread throughout the whole One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church? Furthermore, as I've read these were faulty translations and you haven't said 'why' it was  condemned by them... a text or verse.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: 1. There is no evidence of the supernatural origin of these revelations.

Neither the Sacred Heart..... after the revolution.... how about now?

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: 2. No feast of Divine Mercy should be instituted. Why? Because if it is based on apparitions that are not clearly coming from God, then it would be rash and temerarious to institute a feast in the Church based on something that is a false apparition.

lol he seems so sure of himself, still failed to point to anything to say 'clearly not coming from God'.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: Now, you have all seen this image, even if in passing, and you would know and recognize it. It shows a strange picture of Jesus that makes me uneasy. I cannot really tell you why. I do not like it. I don't like the face, I don't like the gesture, I don't like the posture, I don't like anything. This was my first impression of this image. I don't want it around because it is, for lack of a better term, creepy to me when I look at it.

Well I'm convinced, subjectivism... what could go wrong? lol

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: The image shows multicolored rays, I think they are red, white and blue, coming from His chest region - no heart, just these rays. You have all seen this. Well, that was the image that was forbidden to be published or spread.

LOL "I think"?? talk about disingenuous. Everyone knows full well it is the Blood and Water that gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus pierced with a lance.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: Two Popes strongly warned the faithful of a danger in this devotion.

Yet you haven't listed a text from the Diary.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: Principal error: It presents an unconditional mercy

lol no it doesn't.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: Let me present you with a parallel thought.
Above, a majestic Jesus with the halo of divinity and a well-defined Sacred Heart gives a clear blessing; below, a worker-like Jesus without the proper halo or a heart makes a gesture more like a "hello" than a blessing

You do realize that there are many different Sacred Heart Images? And St Margaret Mary Alacoque was only instructed with the Sacred Heart, Crown of Thorns, Cross etc not with the halo of divinity in your particular image? Those were added to the image by others who saw ways to improve it. Indeed both images were created by man but the graces contained are in the Sacred Heart and the Blood and Water, not what kind of face the painter (who didn't see Christ) tried best to re-create.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: we must make reparation. We should always do penance for our sins and make various kinds of reparation.

So then what of the Prodigal Son? .... No, you'll find all that was needed was repentance, then while the son was still a long way off, the Father ran out to meet him.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: It preaches that we can expect an unconditional mercy with no price to be paid whatsoever, with no obligations whatsoever. This is not the message of Christ.

Sure, so the Prodigal Son?.... The King forgiving the debtors etc etc?. What does it mean to forgive a debt?.... No his debt was forgiven... the debtor was only jailed because he refused to show an ounce of that same mercy to his neighbor and thus it was reinstated.

(05-07-2020, 09:30 AM)CopiosaApudEumRedemptio Wrote: The central error of the Divine Mercy is that it promises lots of spiritual rewards with no requirement of penance, no mention of reparation, no mention of any condition.

You'd better rip the Prodigal Son out of the bible then.

I'll get to the quoted versus later.

"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."

God Bless


Josh,

You are addressing me in your response as if I wrote this response, did you miss the pieces where the original sources were cited?

The article answers the OPs question directly and specifically. I happen to agree with this article but didn't do the research nor do I claim to have the theological background to make the determinations in the article.

In order to get your questions addressed why don't you direct them to the author, here is the contact information from the the original article in The Angelus.

"Fr. Peter Scott was ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988. After assignments as seminary professor, US District Superior, and Rector of Holy Cross Seminary in Goulburn, Australia, he is presently Headmaster of Our Lady of Mount Carmel Academy in Wilmot, Ontario, Canada. Those wishing answers may please send their questions to Q & A in care of Angelus Press, 2915 Forest Ave., Kansas City, MO 64109."
"There is nothing more pleasing to God, than to see a soul who patiently and serenely bears whatever crosses it is sent; this is how love is made, by putting lover and loved one on the same level. . . A soul who loves Jesus Christ desires to be treated the way Christ was treated-desires to be poor, despised and humiliated."

St Alphonsus Ligouri
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Messages In This Thread
Divine Mercy Chaplet - by lukeg03 - 05-06-2020, 11:03 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by josh987654321 - 05-06-2020, 11:08 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by Paul - 05-07-2020, 12:23 AM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by jovan66102 - 05-07-2020, 01:11 AM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by mr.rose77 - 05-07-2020, 08:39 AM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by Augustinian - 05-07-2020, 12:38 AM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by josh987654321 - 05-07-2020, 08:45 AM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by Paul - 05-07-2020, 01:03 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by mr.rose77 - 05-07-2020, 02:45 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by mr.rose77 - 05-07-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by josh987654321 - 05-07-2020, 07:44 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by josh987654321 - 05-07-2020, 07:48 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by josh987654321 - 05-07-2020, 08:41 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by CopiosaApudEumRedemptio - 05-07-2020, 09:29 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by josh987654321 - 05-07-2020, 08:58 PM
RE: Divine Mercy Chaplet - by LionHippo - 05-07-2020, 09:05 PM



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