No Expectation to Follow Pre-VII Traditions
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(12-09-2020, 11:01 AM)yablabo Wrote:
(12-08-2020, 11:34 PM)Pandora Wrote: I get a little disheartened when people no longer want to follow tradition.  I feel like we shouldn't do the bare minimum just because it's all we are required to do, and there's beauty and wisdom to be gained in trying to accomplish things that are a little difficult.  That is why people drive themselves crazy with 12 dishes, and keeping carp alive in the bathtub, and sending someone outside to put the baby Jesus in the manger when the first star is out.  If we decide to forget all these things just because they don't make us "feel" anything, we've lost a great deal of our inheritance.

To get the train back on the tracks for this topic, I could order a pizza and crab Rangoons and technically fulfill the Christmas Eve tradition.  Where's the richness in that, though?  I'd lose just about all the symbolism and I'd definitely lose any connection to the past.

You can’t expect everyone to follow Eastern European, Italian, German, French or Irish catholic customs.  Not everyone belonged to those traditions prior to Vatican II, either.  If you like to keep the customs of your ancestors, that is laudable.  I do the same with mine.  However, the things which were law that are no longer, are also no longer universal customs.

Well, unless people were dropped onto the earth after 1960, these were and are the traditions of the universal Church.  If you were Catholic in Kenya or Chile or Korea, it would have been required to follow the rules of fasting and abstinence.  People may have been eating sekihan instead of colcannon, but everyone still did it.  It is more important, to use an nit-picky point of grammar, that tradition is Catholic rather than catholic.

Your position, if I am understanding correctly, is that we only must do what is binding upon sin.  That position is fair enough.  It is, to reiterate, the bare minimum we need to do.  I think what others are saying is we should not dismiss these good and beautiful traditions just because they are technically not required or don’t give us the warm fuzzies.   We aren’t so much concerned about Grandma and Aunt Sue making the feast of the 12 fishes, but for showing the love and respect we have for our Lord on the vigil of His birth by keeping fast and abstinence.

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No Expectation to Follow Pre-VII Traditions - by Pandora - 12-09-2020, 01:38 PM

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