Pope condemns 'deviant forms of religion'
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From the Daily Mail:



Pope condemns 'deviant forms of religion' in the wake of French massacre, accusing them of causing 'the breakdown of society and spawning violence and death'
  • Pope Francis criticised religious fundamentalism in a speech today
  • He said that it 'eliminated God, turning him into an ideological pretext'
  • He blamed last week's murders in Paris on a 'culture of rejection'
  • Francis said this 'spawns violence and death' and 'societal breakdown'
By Ted Thornhill for MailOnline
Published: 06:04 EST, 12 January 2015  |  Updated: 12:12 EST, 12 January 2015



Pope Francis has slammed 'deviant forms of religion' following the deadly attacks by Islamist militants in France last week which left 17 people dead.

'Losing their freedom, people become enslaved, whether to the latest fads, or to power, money, or even deviant forms of religion,' he said, laying the blame on 'a culture of rejection' which leads to 'the breakdown of society and spawning violence and death.'

'We see painful evidence of this in the events reported daily in the news, not least the tragic slayings which took place in Paris a few days ago,' he said in his yearly speech to the members of the Diplomatic Corps accredited to the Holy See.

'Religious fundamentalism, even before it eliminates human beings by perpetrating horrendous killings, eliminates God himself, turning him into a mere ideological pretext,' he said.

Francis also denounced the 'abominable' kidnapping and enslavement of young girls by Boko Haram militants in Nigeria and the slaughter of 'unspeakable brutality' of more than 100 children by the Taliban in Pakistan.

Referring specifically to the U.S., Francis welcomed the planned closure of the Guantanamo prison and the recent U.S.-Cuba rapprochement that he helped to facilitate.

He called for a change in attitude toward accepting refugees, noting the many unaccompanied Latin American children migrating to the U.S. are 'are all the more at risk and in need of greater care, attention and protection.'

He said he hoped 2015 would bring progress toward a new climate change agreement, saying in a brief deviation from his text that it was 'urgent.'

His comments came as France deployed 15,000 police and security forces to bolster security around 'sensitive' sites and Jewish schools in the country, in the wake of the killings.

Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said 10,000 soldiers will be called up from Tuesday to protect 'sensitive sites in the whole country from tomorrow (Tuesday) evening', given the 'scale of threats' on France.

The troop deployment would come on top of 5,000 police and security forces already mobilised Monday to protect some 717 schools and Jewish sites in the country.

Le Drian unveiled the fresh measures after an emergency meeting called by President Francois Hollande as attention turned to preventing a repeat of France's bloodiest attacks in half a century.

'This is the first time that our troops have been mobilised to such an extent on our own soil,' the defence minister said, adding that he would prefer not to list the sites which are deemed sensitive.

Le Drian said the mobilisation is going on 'thanks to a high level of reactivity of our forces and the professionalism' showed by the team.

Authorities are still hunting for possible accomplices of the three gunmen who carried out the three-day killing spree that began with a massacre of 12 people at the Charlie Hebdo satirical weekly.

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It's interesting how the Papacy has just become a sort of office to supply running-commentary on contemporary events. The Chair of Peter exists to make pronouncements on social, environmental, and societal justice. Of course, many good things are said - especially about God becoming a mere ideological pretext - but it seems to me that all he offers here is negative criticism, not positive. It's kind of depressing, really.
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How about condemning the divergent form of Christianity which takes Christ as an excuse for whatever "social justice" program is in fashion?
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What does he mean by deviant forms of religion? It would be easy if he just came out and said it, Sunni Islam is itself a deviant religion. Whether it's ISIS in Syria and Iraq, the Taliban in Pakistan, Boko Haram in Nigeria or the French massacre it's all about Islam, especially Sunni Islam. Why will the world not wake up to this?


Why do commentators try to obfuscate the issue by downplaying the Islamic connection to all this global violence? If deviant forms of religion are are the root of this than islam itself is a religious pathology.
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#5
A deviant form of Islam?  As if pure Islam is just the bees' knees?

Does this man read?
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Quote:Francis also denounced the 'abominable' kidnapping and enslavement of young girls by Boko Haram militants in Nigeria and the slaughter of 'unspeakable brutality' of more than 100 children by the Taliban in Pakistan.

What about the 'unspeakable brutality' of the USSA's Military Industrial Complex?
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My the problem Your Holiness, is not the fact that people are living in the "culture of rejection", which you describe as "not caring for the homeless and elderly"....maybe the problem is that people have rejected Christo Rey and the Church.

Any religion, other than the One True Faith, is a "deviant form of religion"
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(01-15-2015, 08:40 AM)austenbosten Wrote: My the problem Your Holiness, is not the fact that people are living in the "culture of rejection", which you describe as "not caring for the homeless and elderly"....maybe the problem is that people have rejected Christo Rey and the Church.

Any religion, other than the One True Faith, is a "deviant form of religion"

Wait a minute, isn't that precisely what he's saying? Of course he doesn't spell it out, but from what is reported he does not make a distinction between a valid form of islam and a deviant islam, therefore deviant religion is simply a religion that is not the true religion—the religion of Christ that is in the Church.

More and more people are waking to the threat of islam, now that even “moderate muslims” say that the proper response for blasphemy towards the prophet (and therefore the proper name of this religion is Mohammedism) is death. Or even when they say the magazine should apologize—you know, the magazine might be wrong, but its not the magazine that should apologize but the group who kills and threatens (think Kurt Westergaard and Salman Rushdie).

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(01-15-2015, 09:29 AM)Renatus Frater Wrote:
(01-15-2015, 08:40 AM)austenbosten Wrote: My the problem Your Holiness, is not the fact that people are living in the "culture of rejection", which you describe as "not caring for the homeless and elderly"....maybe the problem is that people have rejected Christo Rey and the Church.

Any religion, other than the One True Faith, is a "deviant form of religion"

Wait a minute, isn't that precisely what he's saying? Of course he doesn't spell it out, but from what is reported he does not make a distinction between a valid form of islam and a deviant islam, therefore deviant religion is simply a religion that is not the true religion—the religion of Christ that is in the Church.

More and more people are waking to the threat of islam, now that even “moderate muslims” say that the proper response for blasphemy towards the prophet (and therefore the proper name of this religion is Mohammedism) is death. Or even when they say the magazine should apologize—you know, the magazine might be wrong, but its not the magazine that should apologize but the group who kills and threatens (think Kurt Westergaard and Salman Rushdie).

Perhaps, I will not (like some trads) claim to know what is in His Holiness's heart.

However, the fact that the pope speaks as if "religious fundamentalism" is a bad thing, tells me it is not what you think it is.

Catholics should be religiously fundamental. Fundamentally we are Catholic....forget liberal, conservative, American, or not....we are Catholic first, foremost and always.
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So, what do you think?  Is Francis going to challenge Hillary in Iowa and do you think he will get the party's nomination? In the meantime, who's handling all that religion stuff. Hopefully, Pope Benedict.
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