A New Protocol
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There is intense anticipation in the Catholic Church — and no small amount of anxiety for traditionalists — over what Pope Francis will say about Communion for divorced and remarried Catholics in a key document expected in the coming weeks.

But Francis has already made an intriguing change in this area, albeit one that only concerns the Vatican’s arcane diplomatic protocol and a very, very select group: Catholic heads of state.

As longtime Vatican-watcher Andrea Tornielli reports, the pontiff has altered the long-standing Vatican custom that if a Catholic president or prime minister (or dictator) who is divorced and remarried without an annulment visits the pope with his or her spouse, the pope will meet with the head of state first and then later greet the spouse — who is usually waiting ensconced in an anteroom.

“From now on,” Tornielli writes, “Catholic heads of state in irregular marital unions will be able to meet the pope along with their spouse and the latter will also be able to appear in official group photos when gifts are exchanged.”

Tornielli said Francis asked for the change — first reported by Argentine journalist Elisabetta Pique — two years ago when an unnamed Latin American head of state who had married his wife in a civil ceremony met the pope, who then greeted the wife in a separate location.

The new protocol was used for the first time last Saturday (Feb. 27) for another Latin American head of state, the new president of Francis’ native Argentina, Mauricio Macri, and his third wife, Juliana Awada.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/...story.html
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(03-04-2016, 12:26 AM)Poche Wrote: But Francis has already made an intriguing change in this area, albeit one that only concerns the Vatican’s arcane diplomatic protocol and a very, very select group: Catholic heads of state.

That is what Francis thinks of Sacramental marriage. He is a joke.
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Pope Francis has ZERO authority to give people permission to go to communion while obstinately refusing to avoid sin. People interested in saving souls- particularly their own- would do well to remember that.
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Ugh, I really need to start praying the Rosary everyday.


Amazing how so many in the Church, including Pope Benedict are so quiet on the disaster that is this pontificate...something's rotten in the Vatican.
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On the same token, is there any good reason why, when acting as a head of state, the Pope can't greet the new spouse at the same time?
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(03-04-2016, 06:12 PM)PrairieMom Wrote: On the same token, is there any good reason why, when acting as a head of state, the Pope can't greet the new spouse at the same time?

Perhaps not, but it's a bit disingenuous to say that the Pope ever acts purely as a head of state.
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(03-04-2016, 06:18 PM)aquinas138 Wrote:
(03-04-2016, 06:12 PM)PrairieMom Wrote: On the same token, is there any good reason why, when acting as a head of state, the Pope can't greet the new spouse at the same time?

Perhaps not, but it's a bit disingenuous to say that the Pope ever acts purely as a head of state.

I agree, but there are times where his role is less spiritual and more political. In those instances, I'm not too sure what the controversy is. There are heads of state that have committed far worse sins than remarrying, IMO, but they are still greeted by the pontiff.

Then again, maybe I got my nose a bit out of joint over this because the spouse will almost invariably be a woman, and yet she's the one excluded from the initial greeting even though it takes two to tango.
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I remember when George Wallace made a trip to Rome. He wanted an audience with the Pope and was refused on account of his irregular marriage situation.
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(03-05-2016, 12:23 AM)PrairieMom Wrote: I agree, but there are times where his role is less spiritual and more political. In those instances, I'm not too sure what the controversy is. There are heads of state that have committed far worse sins than remarrying, IMO, but they are still greeted by the pontiff.

Then again, maybe I got my nose a bit out of joint over this because the spouse will almost invariably be a woman, and yet she's the one excluded from the initial greeting even though it takes two to tango.

Well I would assume that's because the Head of State is most likely male simply because most are male. The spouse, whether male or female, is most likely just the heads plus one.
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(03-05-2016, 03:02 AM)Dominicus Wrote:
(03-05-2016, 12:23 AM)PrairieMom Wrote: I agree, but there are times where his role is less spiritual and more political. In those instances, I'm not too sure what the controversy is. There are heads of state that have committed far worse sins than remarrying, IMO, but they are still greeted by the pontiff.

Then again, maybe I got my nose a bit out of joint over this because the spouse will almost invariably be a woman, and yet she's the one excluded from the initial greeting even though it takes two to tango.

Well I would assume that's because the Head of State is most likely male simply because most are male. The spouse, whether male or female, is most likely just the heads plus one.

Oh, I know, it's just if the logic is that it's due to "irregular marriage", why is the female spouse excluded and the male head of state not? It seems to me, it takes (only) 2 to make a marriage.
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