Marco Tosatti on the Pope’s Secret Plans to Potentially Modify Humanae Vitae
From OnePeterFive:

"Our Italian colleague and friend, Marco Tosatti, has once more been able to detect some important developments in Rome. On 11 May, Tosatti posted an article entitled “Humanae Vitae: Voices on a Vatican Study Committee to Examine the Encyclical of Paul VI.” (Giuseppe Nardi of in Germany has already diligently reported on this piece of news.)

Tosatti reports, as follows (translation kindly provided by Andrew Guernsey):

    In the Vatican, unconfirmed reports from good sources have leaked that the Pontiff is on the verge of appointing – or even might have already formed – a secret commission to examine and potentially study changes to the Church’s position on the issue of contraception, as it was laid down in 1968 by Paul VI in the encyclical Humanae Vitae. That was the last document signed by Pope Montini, and it was the formalization of what the Second Vatican Council had developed on this issue.

    We have so far no official confirmation of the existence and composition of this entity; but a request for confirmation, or for denial, which was put forward to the competent authorities, has so far not been answered – which could be a signal in itself – in the sense that, if the report was completely unfounded, it wouldn’t take much to say so. As to who could be involved, there are only hypotheses; perhaps Msgr. Vincenzo Paglia, who was recently put in charge of what concerns this kind of activity; perhaps the rector of the Catholic University of Buenos Aires [Msgr. Víctor Manuel “Tucho” Fernandez], the great theological “right hand man” of this pontificate. But these are just speculations.

As of today, Marco Tosatti still has not yet received either an official denial or a confirmation of the story from the Vatican.

In our own research, we have been able to confirm the story. A well-informed source in Rome has confirmed Tosatti’s account without however being able to give specific names of the members of that commission."

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Well I hope not. And if that is the plan why keep it a secret?


"Today, Professor Roberto de Mattei has revealed the truth of this rumor:

    It will be Monsignor Gilfredo Marengo, Professor at John Paul II Pontifical Institute, the coordinator of the commission nominated by Pope Francis to “re-interpret” the encyclical Humane Vitae by Paul VI, in the light of Amoris laetitia, on the occasion of  the fiftieth anniversary of the former’s promulgation, which  falls next year. The initial rumors of the existence of this commission, still secret, reported by Vatican reporter Marco Tosatti, were of a sound source.

    We can confirm that there is a commission, made up of Monsignor Pierangelo Sequeri, Head of the John Paul II Pontifical Institute, Professor Philippe Chenaux, Lecturer in Church History at the Lateran Pontifical University and Monsignor Angel Maffeis, Head of the Paul VI Institute in Brescia. The coordinator is Monsignor Gilfredo Marengo, Lecturer in Theological Anthropology at the John Paul II Institute and member of the Steering Committee of the review CVII-Centro Vaticano II Studi e ricerche.

    The commission nominated by Pope Francis has the task of procuring from the Vatican Archives, the documentation related to the preparatory work on Humane Vitae, which took place over a period of three years, during and after the Second Vatican Council. The first study group on the matter “of regulating births” was constituted by John XXIII in March 1963 and grew to 75 members under Paul VI.  In 1966 the “experts” delivered their conclusions to Pope Montini, and suggested opening the doors to artificial contraception.

    In April 1967 the document reserved for the commission – the one from which the “re-visitation of the encyclical” should start – appeared contemporarily in France in Le Monde, in the U.K. in The Tablet and in the U.S.A in The National Catholic Reporter. Paul VI, however, after two years of wavering, published the encyclical Humane Vitae on July 25th 1968, wherein he affirmed the traditional position of the Church, which has always forbidden the artificial limitation of births.  It was, as the philosopher Romano Amerio said, the most important act of his pontificate."

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Look I get that Pope Francis is certainly the most heretical speaking Pope we have, but is this nonsense necessary?

For years the Never-Francis has been putting out rumours as fast as the MSM can put out rumours about Trump.

How about we deal with what is actually happening and public instead of these 'secret meetings' that are always talked about, but nothing comes of it.

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Archbishop Paglia is now denying there is any truth to this story. That may not be very re-assuring.

"A papal commission reconsidering Humanae Vitae? No, but...
By Phil Lawler (bio - articles - email) | Jun 23, 2017
The good news is that, contrary to a widespread rumor, Pope Francis has not ordered a commission to reconsider the teaching of Humanae Vitae in the light of Amoris Laetitia.

The bad news is that the commission exists. Call it a “study group” if you prefer, but there is a scholarly panel, working under the auspices of a pontifical institute, preparing a reappraisal of Humanae Vitae.
Msgr. Gilfredo Marengo, who chairs the group, told the Catholic News Agency that “the issue of a conciliation between Amoris Laetitia and Humanae Vitae is not on the agenda.” Less reassuringly, he said that he was not interested in finding “answers to useless questions,” and he favored “decentralization of doctrinal issues.”

Msgr. Marengo’s commission is sponsored by the Pontifical Institute John Paul II for Studies on Studies on Marriage and Family, which—as its name suggests—was established as a bulwark of support for the great Polish Pontiff’s groundbreaking work on human sexuality and the “theology of the body.” But the John Paul Institute has been gutted and remodeled under Pope Francis, as has its parent institution, the Pontifical Academy for Life.

Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, the president of the Pontifical Academy for Life, told Andrea Gagliarducci that “we should look positively on all those initiatives, such as that of Professor Marengo of the John Paul II Institute, which aim at studying and deepening [Humanae Vitae] in view of the 50th anniversary of its publication.” But we could have relied on the “old” John Paul II Institute to produce a solid defense of the central argument of Humanae Vitae. We can’t expect the same today.

Archbishop Paglia assured Gagliarducci that “there is no pontifical commission called to re-read or to re-interpret Humanae Vitae.” OK, Pope Francis didn’t appoint the commission. He didn’t need to. By appointing Archbishop Paglia, and appointing the new members of the Pontifical Academy for Life, he ensured that these institutions would take a new direction.

Or put it this way: Pope Francis didn’t appoint the commission that is now studying Humanae Vitae. But that commission wouldn’t exist within the Vatican if it didn’t have the Pope’s implicit approval."

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If anything, Humanae Vitae should be more strict than it already is.
(06-27-2017, 07:51 PM)Mark Williams Wrote: If anything, Humanae Vitae should be more strict than it already is.

How so?
to be honest I was surprised they started with divorce/remarriage.  I thought this would've been the low hanging fruit....

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