Mr. Potato Head is now a eunuch
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(02-26-2021, 09:51 PM)newenglandsun Wrote: So he's also a potato now, too?

Only if xe identifies that way, according to whoever is building the potato xerson.
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(02-26-2021, 10:18 PM)Filiolus Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 09:28 PM)farronwolf Wrote:
Quote:The influx of gay Commies who entered the Church for the purpose of destroying Her and who "came out" after the sexual revolution, which I imagine you'd have applauded at every step. "There's a market for birth control pills!" "It's legal to sell porn, so just shut up about it!" "If you just raise your son right, he'll never leave the Church and get girls pregnant, so what are you worried about that all his peers are fornicating and shacking up?"

I don't know where you get this line of thinking from.  You are putting words out there which I have never uttered.

Thou shall not bear false witness.  Remember that Commandment.  I would think on a Catholic forum by a so called Catholic, this would not happen.  But what do I know, I am new here.  Maybe your aren't really Catholic and don't know about the Commandments. 

I guess some folks don't have a problem with folks outright lying.

farronwolf,

Please reread what Vox said. She was not putting words in your mouth. She said, "I imagine...". She did not say, "You said...". So how exactly is that lying?

BTW, what made you decide to join this forum? This is a genuine question.

The entire context of that portion of her post was indicating those were my beliefs, which they are not, so if that isn't putting words out there which I haven't uttered what do you call it?     Please reread it yourself.   

If I said you believed the Eucharist is just a wafer and transubstantiation never happens, even though I am not saying you said it, does that make it any less a lie? 

Honest answer, I came to the forum for Catholic discussion.   What I have found so far is not what I expected.    

Your answer to my question will be a great indicator of what more I can expect on this forum.
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(02-26-2021, 10:35 PM)farronwolf Wrote: The entire context of that portion of her post was indicating those were my beliefs, which they are not, so if that isn't putting words out there which I haven't uttered what do you call it?     Please reread it yourself.   

If I said you believed the Eucharist is just a wafer and transubstantiation never happens, even though I am not saying you said it, does that make it any less a lie?

Problem is that she wasn't walking around telling people you believed that. She said, "I imagine...", which in normal conversation would be your opportunity to say, "Actually, I don't think that, and here's why...". Instead you misread her statement, then rudely accused her of breaking the 8th commandment. 


Quote:Honest answer, I came to the forum for Catholic discussion.   What I have found so far is not what I expected.    

Your answer to my question will be a great indicator of what more I can expect on this forum.

You have a fundamentally different way of looking at things than most of the people here. Instead of name-calling, a productive conversation here would try to find the real source of disagreement (not pinning this all on you). In other words, yeah, we all know what conclusions we disagree on. What premises led us to different conclusions?

Vox was trying to show you the beliefs that underpin her conclusions. You missed them through the fog of anger at the perceived slander.
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Reply to filiolus.


The influx of gay Commies who entered the Church for the purpose of destroying Her and who "came out" after the sexual revolution, which I imagine you'd have applauded at every step.

"There's a market for birth control pills!" "It's legal to sell porn, so just shut up about it!"

"If you just raise your son right, he'll never leave the Church and get girls pregnant, so what are you worried about that all his peers are fornicating and shacking up?"

Break her post down into the parts.

The first she said I imagine you applauded.

The second and third she put quotes around ridiculous statements. This isn't saying I imagine, is it? It is an implication of things that I have said.

If you look at my timeline, the name calling started from forum regulars first. An indication of the tone of the forum. I simply responded in kind after a while.

Her conclusions were wrong based on a misinterpretation of my beliefs. And I don't get mad, especially over a forum of this nature, and there certainly is no fog.

I don't know any of ya'll from Adam, and you all certainly don't know me. What do you mean by I have a fundamentally different way of looking at things from most of the people here? You have virtually no idea how I look at things. Seems there are others here who agree with me, but might not be willing to vocalize it to the rest of you all. Wonder why that is? Has the forum created a sense of if you don't agree with us, and think and say the same things we do you are not welcome to join in the conversation?

If the intent of the forum is simply to have a kumbaya session where everyone slaps each other on the back for denigrating things they don't like, it isn't much of a forum for discussion is it? Seem that would be more of a cult personality.
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(02-26-2021, 11:05 PM)farronwolf Wrote: What do you mean by I have a fundamentally different way of looking at things from most of the people here?

The way that you look at things seems to be unencumbered by catechesis.
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(02-26-2021, 11:11 PM)ChairmanJoeAintMyPresident Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 11:05 PM)farronwolf Wrote: What do you mean by I have a fundamentally different way of looking at things from most of the people here?

The way that you look at things seems to be unencumbered by catechesis.


You have no clue with your name calling and lying.  Seriously.
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(02-26-2021, 09:28 PM)farronwolf Wrote: "The influx of gay Commies who entered the Church for the purpose of destroying Her and who "came out" after the sexual revolution, which I imagine you'd have applauded at every step. "There's a market for birth control pills!" "It's legal to sell porn, so just shut up about it!" "If you just raise your son right, he'll never leave the Church and get girls pregnant, so what are you worried about that all his peers are fornicating and shacking up?"

I don't know where you get this line of thinking from.  You are putting words out there which I have never uttered.

Thou shall not bear false witness.  Remember that Commandment.  I would think on a Catholic forum by a so called Catholic, this would not happen.  But what do I know, I am new here.  Maybe your aren't really Catholic and don't know about the Commandments. 

I guess some folks don't have a problem with folks outright lying.

https://www.fisheaters.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=88767&pid=1443214#pid1443214:

"The company can do what it wishes. It's goal is to make money for its investors. If the new family set will sell and make money, more power to them. If folks don't like it, they don't have to buy it."


https://www.fisheaters.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=88767&pid=1443236#pid1443236:

"If you raise your children properly, they will be able to resist the pressures from the other kids.  If you don't raise them right, maybe they will be able to resist, maybe they won't."

"If a company wants to make a sex worker doll, that is their choice.  BTW, they make them all the time for adults, you might even have some friends who have one you don't know about.    This is America, folks can do what they wish as long as it isn't illegal.  The market will determine if it is successful."
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(02-26-2021, 11:51 PM)VoxClamantis Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 09:28 PM)farronwolf Wrote: "The influx of gay Commies who entered the Church for the purpose of destroying Her and who "came out" after the sexual revolution, which I imagine you'd have applauded at every step. "There's a market for birth control pills!" "It's legal to sell porn, so just shut up about it!" "If you just raise your son right, he'll never leave the Church and get girls pregnant, so what are you worried about that all his peers are fornicating and shacking up?"

I don't know where you get this line of thinking from.  You are putting words out there which I have never uttered.

Thou shall not bear false witness.  Remember that Commandment.  I would think on a Catholic forum by a so called Catholic, this would not happen.  But what do I know, I am new here.  Maybe your aren't really Catholic and don't know about the Commandments. 

I guess some folks don't have a problem with folks outright lying.

https://www.fisheaters.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=88767&pid=1443214#pid1443214:

"The company can do what it wishes. It's goal is to make money for its investors. If the new family set will sell and make money, more power to them. If folks don't like it, they don't have to buy it."


https://www.fisheaters.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=88767&pid=1443236#pid1443236:

"If you raise your children properly, they will be able to resist the pressures from the other kids.  If you don't raise them right, maybe they will be able to resist, maybe they won't."

"If a company wants to make a sex worker doll, that is their choice.  BTW, they make them all the time for adults, you might even have some friends who have one you don't know about.    This is America, folks can do what they wish as long as it isn't illegal.  The market will determine if it is successful."

Every one of those statements is true.   

None of those statements are what you put in quotes when you were alluding to what I said.

Saying people don't have to purchase a product if they don't want to, is certainly not telling anyone to shut up.

Saying my son has a good bunch of friends is certainly not saying I never have to worry about him, or that they are all fornicating.   

Reposting what I have previously posted is no defense to your actions.
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(02-27-2021, 12:49 AM)farronwolf Wrote: Every one of those statements is true.   

None of those statements are what you put in quotes when you were alluding to what I said.

They corresponded perfectly.

Quote:Saying people don't have to purchase a product if they don't want to, is certainly not telling anyone to shut up.

Uh-huh. So your point was that people can buy or not buy things if they want to. Did you think no one here knew that? Why would you mention it? You had a purpose, presumably, in stating the obvious, so what was it?

Quote:Saying my son has a good bunch of friends is certainly not saying I never have to worry about him, or that they are all fornicating.   

Barring death, disease, natural disasters, some sort of crime or tort against him by others, and accidents, what would you have to worry about?

Quote:Reposting what I have previously posted is no defense to your actions.

On the contrary. My reposting what you wrote shows exactly why your thinking has been characterized as it has been.
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